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by Icthus
Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:39 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Why not hope for the best?
Replies: 9
Views: 1519

Re: Why not hope for the best?

Because if Christianity (or one of many other religions) is true, then what you choose to believe in will have eternal consequences? That seems like a pretty good reason to care about the truth to me. Threats do not provide a good reason, ever. That isn't really a threat, though. It's a simple trut...
by Icthus
Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:37 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Why not hope for the best?
Replies: 9
Views: 1519

Re: Why not hope for the best?

This really boils down to the following question: Why should the average person care what is true (about God or god(s) and the afterlife), and not just believe whatever makes them feel good? Because if Christianity (or one of many other religions) is true, then what you choose to believe in will ha...
by Icthus
Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:35 am
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Scripure says the Earth is flat??
Replies: 9
Views: 1601

Re: Scripure says the Earth is flat??

Isaiah 40:18, 22, To whom then will you liken God? Or what likeness will you compare to Him? .... 22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth , And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in. NKJV Notice -...
by Icthus
Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:58 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Listen to young atheists
Replies: 23
Views: 3184

Re: Listen to young atheists

I might be mistaken, but weren't you the one who said in another topic that before you stopped believing you knew much more about the Bible than most of the Christians around you? Don't you agree that serious study and attempting to know the material is important? ... Also, you say "second-hand rep...
by Icthus
Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:36 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Atheism Stand On Its Own Two Feet?
Replies: 163
Views: 21553

Re: Can Atheism Stand On Its Own Two Feet?

* Flicks metaphysical elastic band @ Icthus' head * I don't quite get what you mean. You say that "colour is an intrinsic part of said element in said spectrum," but this is exactly the opposite of what most materialist philosophers actually argue (that color as common sense understands it exists o...
by Icthus
Wed Aug 07, 2013 1:31 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Atheism Stand On Its Own Two Feet?
Replies: 163
Views: 21553

Re: Can Atheism Stand On Its Own Two Feet?

I don't see much wonkiness in the fifth point. The fact that what we term colour (to use your example) correlates physically with the spectrum of light does nothing to explain the phenomenon of experiencing colour itself. As one eminent philosopher once noted (why can't I remember which one?), if M...
by Icthus
Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:17 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Listen to young atheists
Replies: 23
Views: 3184

Re: Listen to young atheists

So you're taking the second-hand reporting of the view of one atheist over a pastor and dozens of Christians about how good the preaching is? Interesting ... No, actually, I'm not. You seem to be conflating increased youth group membership with "a pastor and dozens of Christians" claiming that the ...
by Icthus
Wed Aug 07, 2013 6:43 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Atheism Stand On Its Own Two Feet?
Replies: 163
Views: 21553

Re: Can Atheism Stand On Its Own Two Feet?

* Waves * Well...to be fair, it has previously been pointed out why Kurieuo's fifth point is a little wonky. Very much cheers to all. I don't see much wonkiness in the fifth point. The fact that what we term colour (to use your example) correlates physically with the spectrum of light does nothing ...
by Icthus
Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:46 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Atheism Stand On Its Own Two Feet?
Replies: 163
Views: 21553

Re: Can Atheism Stand On Its Own Two Feet?

I don't want to seem like I'm picking on you Dow (I'm not, I promise). I just happened to have some time to post, and you are the most recent responder to several active topics. I apologize if I seem confrontational towards a new poster. In any case, I should think that the fact that Kurieuo speaks ...
by Icthus
Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:14 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Contradiction: Calling someone a Fool
Replies: 16
Views: 2490

Re: Contradiction: Calling someone a Fool

Calling your brother an idiot seems quite mild anyway, compared to what Jesus asks of us in Luke 14 - 26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple." But then if we did that ...
by Icthus
Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:03 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Listen to young atheists
Replies: 23
Views: 3184

Re: Listen to young atheists

Well the Parable of the Sower suggests that Jesus places great value in getting more people to hear the message I assume however, that he would like that crop of new potential believers to be healthy as well as large. Spreading the word to more people is great, but if those people aren't receiving ...
by Icthus
Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:27 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Should this lynching victim be blamed?
Replies: 9
Views: 1487

Re: Should this lynching victim be blamed?

Bryant and Milam tortured and killed one. According to the Bible God has killed thousands. Some for less reason than Till was killed. Although quite a few would, I'm sure, have something to say about the idea that God has ever killed anyone for less than Till was murdered for (something likely to d...
by Icthus
Sat Jun 22, 2013 7:50 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Should this lynching victim be blamed?
Replies: 9
Views: 1487

Re: Should this lynching victim be blamed?

I hadn't found out the details until just now. It was called something like the Emmett Till Case. The aftermath got most of the news, but you must get that on your own. I'm making this sort of an allegory, if that's the right word. Have him stand for all of us. Have his bragging and pestering the l...
by Icthus
Sat Jun 08, 2013 10:27 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Did Exodus happen?
Replies: 33
Views: 4130

Re: Did Exodus happen?

If I might drop in to give my own take on the matter, for the most part I agree with Ivellious that belief in the Exodus is largely a matter of faith. There are a number of places where Biblical events, people, and places are corroborated by literary and archaeological evidence, the life, death, and...
by Icthus
Sat Apr 20, 2013 11:12 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Divinity of doubt - discussion
Replies: 17
Views: 1888

Re: Divinity of doubt - discussion

Excellent summary, 1over137. And might I add that in his discussion of the Golden Rule, Bugliosi is simply assuming Christianity (and other religions) are untrue. His claim that no religion has anything worthwhile to add to the Golden Rule is obviously untrue if Christianity is true as there are a w...