Evidence for God from Science

Not much to say except for great answer, jlay.

That was a very long post, and it looks like this one will be too. Apologies to anyone who reads the whole thing. :ebiggrin: I would disagree about Paul not instructing believers to follow the Torah, but regardless, that's just an argument from silence. Obviously you won't find him saying, "Bre...

The problem is that the traditional Christian understanding of the Torah (the Law) and the Old Covenant are flawed right from the outset because of the way they define the Old Covenant, and what they believe about believers before Yeshua came. Christianity says that the Torah was a curse, and that i...

Topanga, I want to welcome you to the forum. The questions you're asking have been asked by a lot of people, including myself, and I think they need definite, solid answers as well. You're not alone in thinking that the Law, or the Torah, has something to do with believers in and followers of Jesus....

KBC, the book of Hebrews was written to Hebrew believers. The letter was to tell the Hebrew believers to stop acting like Hebrews. Many of the early Hebrew believers were slipping back into the old way of rites and rituals of Judaism, so they would avoid persecution that believers were encountering...

Figured I might poke my head back in. Things got kinda ugly/tedious for a while, and I just didn't really see any positivity to be gleaned from joining in. But, things seem more friendly at the moment, and we even have some people agreeing y:O2 . Canuckster, I for one did understand what you were sa...

Israel is currently secular and has imported many sins... True. Even Hinduism.. In fact, many Israelis could care less about the Bible or G-d for that matter. So why support it? Because one day secular Zion will turn into Biblical Zion and then we will all live in peace under Yeshua. So we support ...

I am not saying it doesn't cheez, I am simply saying that to say there is no love outside of Torah, is absurd. Well, I think it's really his wording that's the issue. Again, not trying to speak for him, but I BELIEVE what he means to say is that since Biblical love is defined by Torah, then there c...

Sorry, you are simply mistaken. There is no love outside of Torah? wow! great choice of words. If I follow what Christ said, I do not need any other definition at all. I should let G speak for himself, but I believe what he's trying to get across is that the Biblical definition of love is given in ...

Just reading through this, and although this isn't necessarily where the discussion's at right now, I want to make the point that, as believers, supporting Israel, the people, is not exactly the same thing as supporting Israel the state. Neo brings up a lot of good points about the actions and menta...

Thanks Sam. So many see hell fire and those condemed to it as a torture, so if God is one of love,etc....? I understand wicked society and the perverted that live in it. But the majority of parents would do anything for a child, even die for them. It's those that i'm considering. G-d is no differen...

Being Jewish is a manner of existing. Jews were to be one nation... under God... with liberty and justice for all. To be properly Jewish they were supposed to reflect God in all things. Being Jewish or spiritual israel is to live according to what we were created for... to be the image of God in th...

PaulSacramento wrote:I a glad we get to discuss these things and questions that I and others have, get answered.
Understanding, even if not agreeing, brings Us ALL close together In Christ's Church.

Most definitely, my friend. Discussion and, as you said, understanding edifies the Body, and for that I'm thankful.

Dude...even orthodox Jews don't follow ALL of them, most would say ( and have said to me in discussion) that a large number have been "done away" as obsolete and no longer applicable. The Torah has always been interpreted by the Jewish community and their leaders as to HOW to apply the La...

Thank you for your kind words brother. I really appreciate it. And no, I did not take any offence at all. the only thing I found insulting was G's comment that actually got personal "Don't worry.. I know you are frightened by Jews.. There is nothing to get worried about. In the end they will b...