Evidence for God from Science

Rick, I would have to say the same principle applies. If one isn't convicted, then I don't believe G-d considers it sin. Now, also as I said before, I don't believe this applies for things that're EXPLICITLY stated that everyone agrees on (such as adultery, murder, and stealing), but for things that...

This is a good and a bit complicated of a question, Jac. And before I start, I do want to make explicit that I find Torah-observance COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT to salvation, justification, and sanctification. That's all done by the Messiah's work, and anything we do or don't do cannot negate that. I've s...

http://discussions.godandscience.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=37866 I've made a thread for this discussion in the Bible and Scripture forum, which you can go to through the above link. Lately there've been many brief debates about the role of the Law in a Christian's life, but they're usually abandon...

Recently on this board there have been a lot of debates about the place of the Law/Torah in the lives of believers under the New Covenant. Currently there's one going on in the "Clothing Laws" thread in the Questions for Christians forum, so I figured those who wish to continue it could co...

Ephesians 2:11-13 Nothing about a Gentile become part of Israel's commonwealth . . . Well, the passage says to Gentiles that they were FORMERLY cut off from the Messiah and the commonwealth of Isra'el, and NOW they are brought near through His blood. At least on a plain reading of the verse, it doe...

The discussion of whether or not the Law applies to Christians is a different discussion, that's been attempted to be had other times on this board. If people are interested in discussing it now, I think it'd make a wonderful idea for a thread, personally. While those who believe Torah still applies...

If I gave you that impression, then I apologize. My interpretation of scripture, along with my conscience, leads me to my belief on this. I don't presume that my interpretation is equal to scripture itself. Nothing to worry about, brother. I know that wasn't what you intended to mean. This I agree ...

RickD wrote: Great post cheezerrox.

Cheezerrox, it's amazing how much sense you make when you're not talking about the Sabbath.

Thank you, Rick!

And lol, it's amazing how friendly you can be when we finally agree!

What I'm saying is that Ive read 18 pages in this thread, and countless pages in other threads, and nobody's interpretation of scripture has convinced me that it's anything other than a matter of conscience between an individual believer and God. Well, and that's fair, brother. I would simply say n...

Since we're on the 18th page of this thread, and nobody has convinced me that I need to follow the sabbath, the answer would be a big NO. My argument really isn't that keeping the Sabbath has been done away with for Christians. Christians never had to keep the sabbath in the first place. So, again,...

Gman, we're going around in circles here, and I'm tired and dizzy. I'm tired of being told to do something against what my conscience is clear on. But with Jesus’ atonement, and justification by faith (Rom. 5:1), we no longer are required to keep the Law and hence the Sabbath which was only a shado...

1 John 2:3 Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments. 1 John 5:3-4, “For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our ...

And we agree. That's why I said for those of us not under the law, it's between us and God if we decide to follow the Sabbath law. If you want to follow the Sabbath, that's between you and God. If I don't follow the Sabbath law, that's between me and God. Boy, I'm glad we finally came to an agreeme...

There is nothing in all of scripture that implies for salvation, that one must believe that Jesus is God. The Athanasian Creed however does state that one must believe that Jesus is God to be saved. The Creed is far from being scripture. John 8:23-24 "And He was saying to them, 'You are from b...

Cheezerrox, is it difficult not driving a car, or taking a bus to go anywhere on the Sabbath? I'm sure you know that internal combustion engines make a fire, don't you? :mrgreen: Lol, this is the Orthodox Jewish opinion, and Messianic Judaism is filled with different opinions on this. But, I person...