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- Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:31 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
- Replies: 115
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Re: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
Concepts do not exist independently of consciousness. Requiring consciousness to make a statement about a thing doesn't mean the thing's existence is contingent on one's having consciousness. You talk like "logic" is a "thing" that come before another "thing". You fail...
- Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:43 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
- Replies: 115
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Re: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
This is a guy i ran into on youtube. He did message me later about this stuff and came off as a nice guy. It's just hard keeping your cool sometimes. I'll be in green. He'll be in red. A name is a label assigned to an object or person. We have a memory of such a label. Take that memory away from eve...
- Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:57 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
- Replies: 115
- Views: 22997
Re: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
Sorry if i keep reposting to this topic but i keep on finding good stuff
this is great video. Bahnsen totally destroys materialism and their worldview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYM1WbEy ... re=related
this is great video. Bahnsen totally destroys materialism and their worldview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYM1WbEy ... re=related
- Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:39 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
- Replies: 115
- Views: 22997
Re: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX5fpZWDp4k like look at this guy. what would you say back to this? Debating these guys gets to be so hard, not because their arguments are any good but because this stuff isn't easy to grasp Laws of logic are *not* "despriptive", but are prescriptive . Laws...
- Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:32 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
- Replies: 115
- Views: 22997
Re: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
I think i have it... Logic, or the statement we make about something CANNOT be a non-concept like Dillahunty put it. Think about it... Once he has to put that worldview into practice (non ceptual logic) he says he can't identify what IT is (what we put in a category, like squareness) but he can iden...
- Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:58 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
- Replies: 115
- Views: 22997
Re: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX5fpZWDp4k like look at this guy. what would you say back to this? Debating these guys gets to be so hard, not because their arguments are any good but because this stuff isn't easy to grasp Laws of logic are *not* "despriptive", but are prescriptive . Laws...
- Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:42 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
- Replies: 115
- Views: 22997
Re: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX5fpZWDp4k
like look at this guy. what would you say back to this? Debating these guys gets to be so hard, not because their arguments are any good but because this stuff isn't easy to grasp
like look at this guy. what would you say back to this? Debating these guys gets to be so hard, not because their arguments are any good but because this stuff isn't easy to grasp
- Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:32 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
- Replies: 115
- Views: 22997
Re: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
A rock being a rock whether any people exist doesn't negate logic. I almost wonder what position he is arguing here. If logic is valid for God's existence, then it can not be tied merely to man's existence, but must transcend man. Which he seems to be saying it does. Odd??? Isn't this the same argu...
- Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:44 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
- Replies: 115
- Views: 22997
Re: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
There are the times I wish Jac was still around. The concept "A = A" is in the mind, but the essence of our concept is abstract. Whether or not we are there to concieve something does not have any effect on that something. Thus, A = A and is not, not = to A. A rock is stilla rock, regardl...
- Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:42 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
- Replies: 115
- Views: 22997
Re: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
Thanks for the clarification... y#-o . Yeah, I'd call their reasoning a certain word but I don't think its allowed here. Seeing the distinction it strikes me even more that its really a sort of delaying tactic and arguing about semantics instead of getting into a real discussion about the issue... ...
- Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:21 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
- Replies: 115
- Views: 22997
Re: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
Let me try to explain what I think is a knock down argument against atheism... before you perceive of something you see something. For a lot of people we take this for granted, you could be in a daze, listening to music and driving down the road and not perceive anything but rather see it... percept...
- Fri Sep 16, 2011 8:11 am
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
- Replies: 115
- Views: 22997
Re: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
This bugs me quite a lot when it comes to arguements on apologetics or debates - the debaters starting throwing semantics at each other and chucking back and fore the "burden of proof" baton - but never actually really answer the question and give us something concrete to take away. Sound...
- Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:34 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
- Replies: 115
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Re: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
I think there may be some misunderstanding on the part of the atheists on the significance of the laws of logic and other abstract ideas. Some apologists have actually made some similar points (not completely similar mind you) but for completely different reasons... I have some thoughts, but I'd ra...
- Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:26 pm
- Forum: God and Science
- Topic: Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
- Replies: 115
- Views: 22997
Answering atheists responses to laws of logic
Okay i run into problems sometimes with atheists on youtube trying to talk about laws of logic... they claim that laws of logic are "non concepts," like the word "blark," blark has no definition, it can't be described, the human mind doesn't recognize "blarkness." They ...
- Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:59 pm
- Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
- Topic: Presup Apologetics
- Replies: 106
- Views: 23582
Re: Presup Apologetics
Talking about presups can you guys respond back to my thread about the matt d/matt slick debate in the philosophical discussions? I had some questions that weren't answered.
thanks
http://discussions.godandscience.org/vi ... 19&t=36151
thanks
http://discussions.godandscience.org/vi ... 19&t=36151