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by puritan lad
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:49 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Molinism discussion
Replies: 174
Views: 42731

Re: Molinism discussion

If I have taken the verse out of context, you will have to show this. First, the verse is written by THE King. Please demonstrate first, that Solomon was referring to all Kings at all times. The burden is on you. Asside from injecting ones Calvin bias on the text, I don't see anything. So, Solomon ...
by puritan lad
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:37 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Molinism discussion
Replies: 174
Views: 42731

Re: Molinism discussion

For the record, while I disagree vehemently with the position that God is the author of Evil, I respect that PL is willing to face the implications of his positions and own them rather than trying to engineer some sort of explanation that in the end fails and is unsatisfactory. If I were to accept ...
by puritan lad
Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:32 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Molinism discussion
Replies: 174
Views: 42731

Re: Molinism discussion

jlay, I don't believe that God is the author of sin (Scripture explicitly says that he is not). God does not force man to sin (He doesn't have to). Man has enough sin in himself to accomplish all the evil the God ordains. But God does create evil, he hardens hearts, he sends evil spirits, he sends l...
by puritan lad
Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:50 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Molinism discussion
Replies: 174
Views: 42731

Re: Molinism discussion

Let me take it a step further. God actually creates evil (Isaiah 45:7). No matter how you slice it, that's what the verse says with honest exegesis. Actually the KJV translates a Hebrew word used in the text you cited as ‘ evil ’ when the word actually means ‘ calamity ’. The word in Isaiah 45:7 is...
by puritan lad
Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:24 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Molinism discussion
Replies: 174
Views: 42731

Re: Molinism discussion

Hmmm, are you a politician, a king, a governor, a head of State? That is to whom the verse is applying – powerful Rulers – presidents, Leader of nations etc… God Used Cyrus, and I do not think Craig was saying that God can’t use the wicked without their permission either as he stated in the article...
by puritan lad
Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:50 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Molinism discussion
Replies: 174
Views: 42731

Re: Molinism discussion

Let me take it a step further. God actually creates evil (Isaiah 45:7). No matter how you slice it, that's what the verse says with honest exegesis.
by puritan lad
Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:48 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: What makes the bible any different than other old stories?
Replies: 38
Views: 8395

Re: What makes the bible any different than other old storie

To clarify, Christians know that the Bible is God's Word because God has revealed that to us. God's revelation (both natural and special) is the only valid source of knowledge. Of course, unbelievers (of all sorts) reject revelational epistemology, and thus are limited to either empiricism, idealism...
by puritan lad
Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:46 am
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: What makes the bible any different than other old stories?
Replies: 38
Views: 8395

Re: What makes the bible any different than other old storie

The answer is that without the Bible, God's revelation of Himself, we would not be able to know anything in a meaningful way. Ask him on what authority he will call Scripture archaic? Somewhere in the discussion, he will reveal his own ultimate authority and basis for knowledge. Should be easy picki...
by puritan lad
Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:54 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: John Wesley's theology
Replies: 422
Views: 109980

Re: John Wesley's theology

Arminianism/Molinism - Denies that God ordains the ends of saving faith (the actual salvation of the elect). Hyper-Calvinism - Denies that God ordains the means of saving faith (the universal call and preaching of the gospel) Calvinism - God ordains both the salvation of His elect, and the means by ...
by puritan lad
Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:50 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Molinism discussion
Replies: 174
Views: 42731

Re: Molinism discussion

No whistling here jlay. You will need to explain in those scriptures further how they establish middle knowledge. In the meantime, I have established that God works actively in man's wicked acts, not just on "middle knowledge". "The king’s heart is a stream of water in the hand of the...
by puritan lad
Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:42 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Molinism discussion
Replies: 174
Views: 42731

Re: Molinism discussion

It appears to me that the great 17th century Reformed theologian Francis Turretin would be one that you are referring too - not Craig. Reformed theologian Francis Turretin could not reconcile the sovereignty of God, human freedom and contingency together. I also see this when High Calvinist try to ...
by puritan lad
Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:28 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Molinism discussion
Replies: 174
Views: 42731

Re: Molinism discussion

Which part Rick? The post was scriptural. Which part would you object to?
by puritan lad
Mon Dec 26, 2011 2:19 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Molinism discussion
Replies: 174
Views: 42731

Re: Molinism discussion

What a horrid thought! I would hate to think that God is ordaining my circumstances and leaving it up to me. I’m liable to mess it all up. What possible comfort could that bring? In the end, Molinism is simply Arminianism dressed up in philosophical clothing, with a more direct “contingent” foreknow...
by puritan lad
Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:01 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: John Wesley's theology
Replies: 422
Views: 109980

Re: John Wesley's theology

I would also add that the beautiful thing about Calvinism preaching the gospel is that the pressure is off. We can't save anyone. We don't need to do personality and demographic surveys, study people's childhoods, or find out what appeals to our listeners, or make empty promises of a better life on ...
by puritan lad
Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:56 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: John Wesley's theology
Replies: 422
Views: 109980

Re: John Wesley's theology

Rick and B.W., This is why we need to stick with word words actually mean. We cannot simply redefine words to mean whatever we want them to mean in order to satisfy our own theological boxes (and we all have them). What you have both described is, by definition, not predestination. It is ratificati...