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by smiley
Thu Oct 28, 2010 3:21 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: God's Omnipotence and the Problem of Evil
Replies: 49
Views: 6811

Re: God's Omnipotence and the Problem of Evil

Just to avert any confusion, here's Danny's original post: To call for an end to suffering would be to call for an end to the material world we inhabit. No one objects to a natural world with an intelligable universe subject to its own laws, correct? To call for an end to suffering would be to call ...
by smiley
Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:47 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: God's Omnipotence and the Problem of Evil
Replies: 49
Views: 6811

Re: God's Omnipotence and the Problem of Evil

In addition to that, it is absolutely irrelevant as to my objection. And had Byblos paid a little more attention to what I was objecting to rather than nit-picking to death just for the sake of disagreeing, I'm sure he would agree. Let's say that God did not intend the world to be perfect. It still ...
by smiley
Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:35 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: God's Omnipotence and the Problem of Evil
Replies: 49
Views: 6811

Re: God's Omnipotence and the Problem of Evil

You do realize those are not the same propositions, right? I am not sure what you mean. They're obviously not the "same". It's an analogy. @Danny: it's possible that my reading comprehension is failing me, but I have no idea how any of what you said relevant as to my objection. In your initial post...
by smiley
Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:09 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: God's Omnipotence and the Problem of Evil
Replies: 49
Views: 6811

Re: God's Omnipotence and the Problem of Evil

In an attempt to enlighten this very confused atheist... To call for an end to suffering would be to call for an end to the material world we inhabit. No one objects to a natural world with an intelligable universe subject to its own laws, correct? To call for an end to suffering would be to call f...
by smiley
Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:12 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Infinite punishment for finite sins
Replies: 427
Views: 60011

Re: Infinite punishment for finite sins

The one argument I hoped someone would elaborate on from the start is - There is no such thing as a finite sin. "Sin" is a theological word for "offense against God." There can be no finite offense against an infinite God. That's a logical absurdity. This is according to Wikipedia also what Thomas A...
by smiley
Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:41 pm
Forum: General Discussion & Introductions
Topic: Apologetics class.
Replies: 18
Views: 2756

Re: Apologetics class.

Why would the Christian wish to waste his precious fellowship time debating that which he already knows to be an irrational worldview with an irrational atheist? What's the use of studying apologetics if you don't expose yourself to the opposition's arguments? You end up doing nothing but indoctrin...
by smiley
Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:10 am
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Luke 31-37
Replies: 2
Views: 795

Re: Luke 31-37

My non-English Bible uses the words "corpse" and "vulture" in that last verse. So, it reads something like "Wherever the corpse is, where vultures are gathered".

It seems clear that the ones who are taken are the unlucky ones.
by smiley
Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:33 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Infinite punishment for finite sins
Replies: 427
Views: 60011

Re: Infinite punishment for finite sins

BavarianWheels wrote: I'm still waiting for a meaning of the word Judgment. One might think some are avoiding it.
There are also verses that speak of "eternal redemption". Are people in the process of being redeemed for the whole eternity? I don't think so.
by smiley
Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:22 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: God's Omnipotence and the Problem of Evil
Replies: 49
Views: 6811

Re: God's Omnipotence and the Problem of Evil

Free will isn't an excuse if he's omnipotent--he could negate suffering and preserve free will if he were omniscient, even if that's impossible by defintion.
I don't get this part.
by smiley
Sat Oct 23, 2010 12:53 pm
Forum: Humor and Jokes
Topic: Old joke is old
Replies: 1
Views: 980

Old joke is old

But it's still funny. " I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said, "Stop! Don't do it!" "Why shouldn't I?" he said. I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!" He said, "Like what?" I said, "Well, are you religious or athe...
by smiley
Sat Oct 23, 2010 11:20 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: "Is Christianity Rational" debate with a friend
Replies: 27
Views: 4071

Re: "Is Christianity Rational" debate with a friend

Do you have a reference for that, include the type of "atheists" polled? " Americans Describe Their Views About Life After Death. ” The Barna Group. 21 Oct. 2003 Now, I have not seen the poll myself, but this was a reference given in the book I got that statistic from. The reason is that any people...
by smiley
Fri Oct 22, 2010 4:19 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: "Is Christianity Rational" debate with a friend
Replies: 27
Views: 4071

Re: "Is Christianity Rational" debate with a friend

Why do you assume that an atheist must be a materialist? As a matter of fact, nearly 50% people who profess to be atheists believe in soul.
by smiley
Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:50 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Hawking and the new Atheists (part of a bigger problem)...
Replies: 30
Views: 5771

Re: Hawking and the new Atheists (part of a bigger problem).

Bengali demonstrates massive historical illiteracy. If you appeal to Christian killings of the past, and then turn around and say that "atheists just want everyone to stop killing each other needlessly", you are either willfully self-deceptive or just blitheringly ignorant.
by smiley
Wed Oct 20, 2010 1:46 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: "Everything is God's fault."
Replies: 71
Views: 7317

Re: "Everything is God's fault."

We can go this route (suffering) also if happycynic wishes but this reminds me of a story of this guy who went into a barbershop to get a haircut and was having a conversation with the barber about why there is so much pain and suffering in the world. The barber said well you know that's why I don'...
by smiley
Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:55 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Infinite punishment for finite sins
Replies: 427
Views: 60011

Re: Infinite punishment for finite sins

That’s not true...there is a lot (a ton) to consider, we have talked on a good bit of it so far. Also, the scriptures do have relevance, they are the truth, also, they can show contradictions against the truth. Concerning Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; the...