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by touchingcloth
Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:10 pm
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The natural progression of same sex marriage
Replies: 87
Views: 14992

Re: The natural progression of same sex marriage

I don't see how you can separate Aristotelian teleology from Aristotelian epistemology, since the latter's assumption of hylomorphism seems to entail the whole actuality/potentiality distinction ... I don't see how you avoid Aristotle's explanation of causality, which entails final causality. But w...
by touchingcloth
Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:41 pm
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The natural progression of same sex marriage
Replies: 87
Views: 14992

Re: The natural progression of same sex marriage

Certainly knowledge is possible without forms Ah, but I disagree. In fact, this is one of the reasons I accept hylomorphism. For all the complicated arguments we can make, it is really very simple. Either what you know is the thing itself or what you know is a representation of the thing itself. Th...
by touchingcloth
Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:30 am
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The natural progression of same sex marriage
Replies: 87
Views: 14992

Re: The natural progression of same sex marriage

Indeed - I can't imagine a situation where animals are able to give and communicate consent where I wouldn't also feel obliged to take up vegetarianism. I for one welcome our new crocodillian overlords, and look forward to their introduction of ProteinBasedMeatSubstitutePaste. Not Soylent Green thou...
by touchingcloth
Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:55 am
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: The natural progression of same sex marriage
Replies: 87
Views: 14992

Re: The natural progression of same sex marriage

So I hope you see that the criteria based solely on consent can't determine right and wrong. When people base their criteria on "consent" it is usually a shorthand for "the ability to give informed consent." In your examples you're mainly using it as a shorthand for "the inability to withold consen...
by touchingcloth
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:17 am
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: Socialism
Replies: 66
Views: 14019

Re: Socialism

My family pays for the water, electricity, and gas WE use. In universal healthcare, my family pays for the healthcare everyone else uses. You all know Americans are fat, lazy, and unhealthy. So, paying for the fat, lazy, and unhealthy, can be quite expensive, in obama's socialism. I think we need t...
by touchingcloth
Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:08 am
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: Socialism
Replies: 66
Views: 14019

Re: Socialism

Prejudices... Prejudices everywhere... :shakehead: What are you talking about, my socialist friend? I'm saying, some people think that having universal healthcare is socialist. Yet nearly entire Europe has it. And some think that in (real) socialism everyone is paid the same salary. Fear of the unk...
by touchingcloth
Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:54 pm
Forum: Politics and World Events
Topic: Socialism
Replies: 66
Views: 14019

Re: Socialism

Look what happens to socialist countries; Is it fair that a fast food worker would make the same as a doctor? Wut. What implementation of socialism have you come across where doctors and fast food workers are paid the same? American's iare poorly uninformed about current issues, do the research you...
by touchingcloth
Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:32 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Anybody read about the "new life" NASA found
Replies: 28
Views: 3159

Re: Anybody read about the "new life" NASA found

What im wondering, is what sort of potential claims will atheist's make against us with this new find? How should us christians respond to this? Surely they will us this as a mechinism to further "prove" macro evolution. What do you guys think? I hope Rich writes an article on this! :o One prominen...
by touchingcloth
Thu May 27, 2010 4:00 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Brains
Replies: 7
Views: 986

Brains

A recent journal article speculates that perhaps Michelangelo painted an anatomically correct image of the human brain into one of his depictions of God on the Sistine chapel's ceiling. If true then IMHO it makes an already spectacular work of art an order of magnitude greater http://www.scientifica...
by touchingcloth
Thu May 27, 2010 5:23 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Darwinism?
Replies: 171
Views: 16223

Re: Darwinism?

As a interesting side question TC (this doesn't directly have anything to do with the conversation) but I wanted to comment that your avatar thing is the coolest ones I've seen on message boards. I was curious is that George Jefferson from the show "The Jeffersons" or is that someone else? Just cur...
by touchingcloth
Wed May 26, 2010 11:41 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Darwinism?
Replies: 171
Views: 16223

Re: Darwinism?

Let's just reverse this claim... So for possible ways to (in principle at least) falsify ID: Multiple existences of mechanisms for heredity that allows for mutations from one generation to the next So the ID hypothesis doesn't allow for a designer of such a mechanism? No extreme violations of neste...
by touchingcloth
Wed May 26, 2010 10:25 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Darwinism?
Replies: 171
Views: 16223

Re: Darwinism?

Right now? Well I'm on the SW Coast, but the time is 4.15 in the afternoon...What's the time in sunny California?? Oh sorry.. It's 8:23 am. And it is sunny.. But cold, 46 degrees.. I live close to this.. //www.greenlegacy.net/images/Santa_Cruz_CA_Natural_Bridges_SP_Cropped_Mid_Qual.jpg Looks kinda ...
by touchingcloth
Wed May 26, 2010 9:28 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Darwinism?
Replies: 171
Views: 16223

Re: Darwinism?

Well both of those resources discuss ways in which the ID hypothesis might be confirmed, neither touches on how it might be disconfirmed. Oh really? Show me where it didn't.. Show you where they didn't say something? If you believe that either of those particular articles deals with how the ID hypo...
by touchingcloth
Tue May 25, 2010 6:32 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Darwinism?
Replies: 171
Views: 16223

Re: Darwinism?

Yep - as in, if the theory doesn't hold, then those are some ways to falsify it. If it does hold then those are only ways to falsify it in principle as in practice none of those ways will ever falsify it. Yes but that is in principle. What I mean is that it truly has been falsified.. Alas, it hasn'...
by touchingcloth
Tue May 25, 2010 6:04 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Darwinism?
Replies: 171
Views: 16223

Re: Darwinism?

Possible ways in principle? :D Yep - as in, if the theory doesn't hold, then those are some ways to falsify it. If it does hold then those are only ways to falsify it in principle as in practice none of those ways will ever falsify it. I perhaps should have said "ways in which the theory is liable ...