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by Forge
Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:23 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Evil and God (Been there, done that)
Replies: 7
Views: 3197

Re: Evil and God (Been there, done that)

How am I doing? If God is omniscient, He would know of how to end evil. Since he would also be able and willing as his godly status demands, there is no reason to believe why He would not act. Evidently, doing nothing to resolve this issue is His choice and, since doing nothing implies that He's unw...
by Forge
Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:49 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Evil and God (Been there, done that)
Replies: 7
Views: 3197

Re: Evil and God (Been there, done that)

I like Jac's argument. I also noticed that he has a bad definition of good ("perfectly strong", "perfectly knowledge", etc). After all, the word perfect implies some kind of limit. For example, a ten milliliter flask is imperfectly full if it's only 9.90 mL, but perfectly full if...
by Forge
Sat Nov 29, 2008 1:05 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Evil and God (Been there, done that)
Replies: 7
Views: 3197

Evil and God (Been there, done that)

I'm going to make a wild assumption and assume that this discussion has been done to death already. But, whatever. Anyway, I came across this on a different forum: 1) If a being wants to end evil but is incapable of doing so, then it is not omnipotent. 2) If a being is able to end evil but is unwill...
by Forge
Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:08 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Infinity and beyond!
Replies: 3
Views: 1726

Infinity and beyond!

I'm sure most people are familiar with the Kalam Cosomological Argument (Everything that has a beginning has a cause; The universe began; therefore the universe has a cause), which is based on the idea that the universe is not infinitely old . I'm e-discussing this with someone, and I'm not sure if ...
by Forge
Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:38 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Abortion: Function versus Essence
Replies: 23
Views: 7407

Re: Abortion: Function versus Essence

A lot of my argumentation above still stands which of him arbitrarily applying certain criteria. Why not just say what is biologically human is a person? Why add new criteria? Does he support infanticide up to a certain age when they display intelligence, self-awareness and a conscience? Sadly, yes...
by Forge
Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:55 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Abortion: Function versus Essence
Replies: 23
Views: 7407

Re: Abortion: Function versus Essence

The problem is, though, is that he seesm to have an all or nothing concept of it. You etiher have some brain function and the capability for love, rationalization, etc, (which makes one a person) or one does not, (which means not a person). I understand, and I purposefully wrote what I did regardle...
by Forge
Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:13 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Abortion: Function versus Essence
Replies: 23
Views: 7407

Re: Abortion: Function versus Essence

Er, anyone have any counterarguments to that? The concept that humanness does not revolve around the degree of, for example, brainwaves, but rather the absolute there-is-or-there-is-not brainwaves. Another quote: Pro-choice advocates, that since there's actual evidence that fetuses possess none of t...
by Forge
Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:32 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Abortion: Function versus Essence
Replies: 23
Views: 7407

Re: Abortion: Function versus Essence

The problem is, though, is that he seesm to have an all or nothing concept of it.

You etiher have some brain function and the capability for love, rationalization, etc, (which makes one a person) or one does not, (which means not a person).
by Forge
Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:00 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Abortion: Function versus Essence
Replies: 23
Views: 7407

Abortion: Function versus Essence

AnbortMan, haven't been on here in ages. What's up, people. Anyway, gotten myself into a debate with abortion. In short, the main argument now is functionalism versus essense, whether or not functionalilty equals essence or whether essence dictates function. Being an Essencist (?) I take the anti-ab...
by Forge
Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:02 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Tower of Babel = God hates us
Replies: 5
Views: 2622

Re: Tower of Babel = God hates us

I'll try those arguments out, then, Gman.

By the way:
Forge wrote:Anway, look. First quote is me, the following is the guy I'm debating. Help plz k thx.
I forgot to do the quote boxes, but the one arguing that God doesn't hate us is me, and the unquoted material is the other guy.
by Forge
Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:52 pm
Forum: Humor and Jokes
Topic: Someone explain this to me...
Replies: 2
Views: 2005

Double question marks means you are n00b and that you should gtfo fyi, lmao.
by Forge
Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:50 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Free Will and Evil
Replies: 13
Views: 5458

Free Will and Evil

In a debate, I've been holding the position that evil is needed for free will. No wait, let me reiterate: I say that the possibility to choose evil is a needed component of free will, whether this evil is actualized or not. I say that if there is no way to choose evil (Rather-poor-example: no tree i...
by Forge
Sat Apr 21, 2007 2:44 pm
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Tower of Babel = God hates us
Replies: 5
Views: 2622

Tower of Babel = God hates us

I've been debating this guy, and he got me thinking about this. Basically, he says that the language-scrambling that went on in the Tower of Babel thing proves that God is either malevolent or frightened of humanity. Anway, look. First quote is me, the following is the guy I'm debating. Help plz k t...
by Forge
Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:16 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: New Methods of Stem Cells
Replies: 4
Views: 2830

New Methods of Stem Cells

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,210078,00.html

Basically, they're trying methods to harvest embryonic stem cells without killing the embryo.

How does this square with abortion? Is it still the killing of a human being--if the cell is considered a person--or is it "all right".
by Forge
Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:07 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolution = Atheistic Belief?
Replies: 24
Views: 5334

People, stay on topic. Whether evolution is true or not is not the question.

The question is whether the belief that God designed the evolutionary mechanisms is still evolution or not.