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by Kelly
Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:02 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Origins of Life
Replies: 30
Views: 4608

The a priori stastical probability that a specific grain of sand will stick to you after a day at the beach is astonomically small. Does this mean that God put that grain of sand there? Conversely, the a priori probability that at least one grain of sand will stick to you after a day at the beach is...
by Kelly
Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:44 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Origins of Life
Replies: 30
Views: 4608

I don't want links, I want it in the original words of the person posting. Links are too easy, and requires little thought on the person who cuts and pastes--it is the lazy way out.
by Kelly
Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:31 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Origins of Life
Replies: 30
Views: 4608

..and I want specifics, not simply the statement that "the fossil recond flies in the face of ToE".
by Kelly
Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:30 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Origins of Life
Replies: 30
Views: 4608

OK, li'l shepard, tell me the evidence *against* ToE.
by Kelly
Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:25 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Origins of Life
Replies: 30
Views: 4608

“There has to be more skepticism, creationists are censored in periodicals, not because of bad evidence, but because they're creationists.” This is BS. Creationists are censored, like astrologers and tea-leaf readers, because they have no scientific evidence; they do not know the difference between...
by Kelly
Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:37 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Intelligent Design in 10 years?
Replies: 43
Views: 6896

Great point Hamilrob: Why would we teach a subject which offers us neither scientific insight nor religious insight. ID is a waste of time.
by Kelly
Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:56 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Origins of Life
Replies: 30
Views: 4608

Well, I agree that it is not Christian to reject empiric evidence of the nature of the world around us, but I have yet to see hard evidence *against* ToE here (or anywhere else, for that matter). Mostly what I see are questions regarding missing evidence or mechanisms, neither of which is actual evi...
by Kelly
Sun Jun 05, 2005 3:40 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Origins of Life
Replies: 30
Views: 4608

Frank, this is right on target! I have never understood why some Christians find it necessary to disbelieve evolution. In my mind, this is a form of religious and spiritual arrogance; to say that any of us knows how God should have created nature, and to say to others that their concept of God's way...
by Kelly
Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:38 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Origins of Life
Replies: 30
Views: 4608

'Fact' is a subjective call of judgement. What is more important scientifically is to state evidence for or against a hypothesis. ToE has a lot of evidence to support its hypotheses. If ToE is to be rejected scientifically, there must be contradictory evidence to make this claim (and not just lack o...
by Kelly
Tue May 31, 2005 8:42 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolution theory stickers taken off textbooks
Replies: 47
Views: 5906

Dan, I agree with your main point: evolution and ID are mutually compatible. By snapshot of life I meant all life—bacteria included. It is common for the ID people to speak up whenever something new in biology comes along. It seems that everything is fair game as far as providing evidence for ID. Th...
by Kelly
Tue May 31, 2005 6:10 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolution theory stickers taken off textbooks
Replies: 47
Views: 5906

I agree that this is getting a bit off topic, but the reason I used the example of the economy is that, as a whole, it is not guided by direct human input. (Otherwise, recessions would not occur, and everything could be controlled by human forces.) It is not a seamless whole, as components of it com...
by Kelly
Tue May 31, 2005 4:39 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolution theory stickers taken off textbooks
Replies: 47
Views: 5906

...and life existed before aerobic metabolism. My only point is that whole industries would either die or be forced to change dramatically without our present infrastructure. If someone from another world looked at Amazon.com and tried to imagine their business model w/o the internet, they would con...
by Kelly
Tue May 31, 2005 12:26 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Has this scientist found evidence of God?
Replies: 13
Views: 1884

This argument follows the pattern of many previous arguments along the same lines: pattern--> order-->design-->designer-->god.

How does this differ? We know nature has patterns; how does this prove the existence of a designer?
by Kelly
Tue May 31, 2005 12:05 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolution theory stickers taken off textbooks
Replies: 47
Views: 5906

It is an easy matter to cut and paste other people's arguments (http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/fact/fact.htm); much more difficult to articulate one's own thoughts. This is the hallmark of a lazy mind. (Hey, I don't understand this. Forget about it! This is the product of a supernatural God!) An...
by Kelly
Tue May 31, 2005 8:36 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: have you guys seen this? (Prophet summons ufo)
Replies: 13
Views: 1751

I guess I find it sad when the faithful need to resort to such desperate means to find evidence for their beliefs. If this is representative of even a significant minority of the faithful, society's collective ability to teach our children the principles of reasoned thought and the scientific method...