Evidence for God from Science

Fair enough. Which OT Scriptures?

the ones saying the messiah would be resurrected on the third day.

well i can see it is quite useless trying to discuss anything with you.

Matt. 24:34 is not about the Trinity. duh! thank you captian obvious. im not talking about the trinity. im talking about the rather clear timing statement in verse 34 and the second coming of Christ. Matt. 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, T...

i think you missed the point of Matt 24. to be more specific, verse 34.

The second coming began in the 18th century throught the person Emanuel Swedenborg. You can find him on the internet. Harry unfortunately that suffers from the same problem as futurism, Matt 24 and it parallels. HelpMeGod: to answer your other question, i think that most preterists say that the rap...

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AttentionKMartShoppers wrote:Paul could not have built anything from the Gospels...because he wrote before the Gospels were written.

Says who? What "scriptures" was Paul referring to in 1 Cor. 15:3-4?

He was refering to the OT.

preterism is the correct term for one who believes that Christ's second coming was in 70 AD.
i consider myself a preterist, but im not really into eschatology so i cant really explain all the details of it or defend it or anything.

if you guys havent read JP Holding's items on the trinity, id recommend them. the article on the relationship between the Father and Son makes sense to me. the one on the Father and the Holy Spirit i havent really taken the time read through carefully. http://www.tektonics.org/jesusclaims/trinitydef...

well somehow, i didnt give you all of the proverbs passage. it should go to verse 30, but i dont know if it would have made more sense. Col 1:17 says that Christ was there before all things. Proverbs 8:23 says Wisdom was there before all things. it also connects Christ with Wisdom, which is importan...

i'm pretty ignorant as to this stuff, but i thought that it was the work of a council and not just a single man?[/list] coming to the descision of the NT canon took a long time. the church fathers were discussing the issue for a couple of centuries. no one council perscribed the NT canon for the en...

I think you have got a faulty view of inspiration.


id love to continue this, but im leaving town for the weekend.

The western world is an individualistic, guilt driven society. The environment the Bible was written in, and most of the world today, is an group oriented, honor-shame society. The things that motivate people to conform to society's expectations are very different between the two cultures. The feeli...

check out Proverbs 8:21-30 and Colossians 1:16-17


EDIT: fixed Proverbs link

This is true, I agree. Maybe the problem is individual interpretation by each reader. Something has got to cause the confusion which leads to the division we have today amongst mankind. i give the award for causing the most confusing to the huge culture gap between the western world and the ANE, fo...

For every contradiction there is an apologetics site that refutes it, and for every refutation there is an atheist complaint and this keeps dragging on forever. I stopped caring about supposed biblical contradictions a long time ago. ive taken the same attitude against contradictions. whenever it c...