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by AttentionKMartShoppers
Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:54 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ben Stein - Expelled movie
Replies: 128
Views: 19891

Re: Ben Stein - Expelled movie

Hi KM, I think gradualism is frequently mistaken to mean constant speedism, which it isn't. It ebbs and flows, as was recognized by Darwin: "Many species once formed never undergo any further change...; and the periods, during which species have undergone modification, though long as measured by ye...
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:48 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ben Stein - Expelled movie
Replies: 128
Views: 19891

Re: Ben Stein - Expelled movie

So, DNA genealogies is molecular phylogeny used on non-coding DNA basically (with a slight difference that ruins the analogy somewhat). More about DNA geeologies: For the past 40 years, evolutionary biologists have been investigating the possibility that some evolutionary changes occur in a clock-li...
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:05 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ben Stein - Expelled movie
Replies: 128
Views: 19891

Re: Ben Stein - Expelled movie

I'll be glad to answer your questions. Gould wrote a lot of words. He was absolutely prolific. Occasionally, to his chagrin, he wrote things the anti-evolutionists took out of context, but he was 100% a believer in evolution. He noticed, along with others, that the fossil record seemed to go in spu...
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:08 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ben Stein - Expelled movie
Replies: 128
Views: 19891

Re: Ben Stein - Expelled movie

And we are even farther off course than we were last month. Now you're just preaching Darwinism to me and how the evidence proves it right, except when it doesn't. Stop that. I think that's against the forum rules, and is why BGood should have been booted long ago. But hasn't because everyone thinks...
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:02 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ben Stein - Expelled movie
Replies: 128
Views: 19891

Re: Ben Stein - Expelled movie

You're a funny man, KM - but loveable. Now we have the official KMarckian view - Darwin didn't do anything new, Anaximander and Erasmus tho't of it first, Haegal's philosophy stunk, Huxley sicced a bulldog on Moses, and Gould punctated Charlie's equilibrium. They're all now in Hell along with Neitc...
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:15 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ben Stein - Expelled movie
Replies: 128
Views: 19891

Re: Ben Stein - Expelled movie

By far the funniest thing you have just said is that paleontology provides evidence for Darwinism, and (I think you were getting at it) shows common descent. But you just said nowhere is the fossil record complete. You said it is up to paleontologists to put it back together, so to speak. But if th...
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:50 pm
Forum: Questions for Christians
Topic: Contemperaneous Sources
Replies: 10
Views: 1628

Re: Contemperaneous Sources

If you keep providing evidence that fulfills his standards, he's going to raise the bar again. The guy has already determined to reject Jesus and the Scriptures, so I'd just go and show it. There is so much in history we take to be true that would never satisfy this guy you're talking to, yet he doe...
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:19 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ben Stein - Expelled movie
Replies: 128
Views: 19891

Re: Ben Stein - Expelled movie

Hi SKMS - I'm only saying what I'm saying. Now I understand why you're so avid about Darwinism. You think tautologies are somehow meaningful and say something new. For example, your assessment "God is not sovereign" would not appear in any evolution textbook. Does it have to? If you claim that evol...
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Thu Feb 21, 2008 9:50 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ben Stein - Expelled movie
Replies: 128
Views: 19891

Re: Ben Stein - Expelled movie

KM: >>[e]volution is random and undirected<< There is no branch of science that deals with supernatural causes. When an individual scientist does he is overstepping his boundaries. It's not surprising that evolution is the same in this regard as the other disciplines. y>:D< DB So, you have said the...
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:59 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ben Stein - Expelled movie
Replies: 128
Views: 19891

Re: Ben Stein - Expelled movie

That's why I use the term Darwinism. Much less ambiguous. :beat: And it's really hard for you to divorce your third definition of evolution and your sixth definition of evolution is the differences are non-existent. Darwinism = random mutation + natural selection. You are saying that there is in fac...
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:16 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ben Stein - Expelled movie
Replies: 128
Views: 19891

Re: Ben Stein - Expelled movie

Oh man, I know things are going bad when my posts increase exponentially in length. I always find out later I could have done twice as much with half the space.
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:15 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ben Stein - Expelled movie
Replies: 128
Views: 19891

Re: Ben Stein - Expelled movie

1. Q: Am I assuming that searching for an unintelligent cause is right, etc. A: right or wrong, science only searches for natural causes and my description of how science proceeds is very standard in the field and not mine. I wish I could take credit for it. I could be verbose, but one thing: Some ...
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:38 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ben Stein - Expelled movie
Replies: 128
Views: 19891

Re: Ben Stein - Expelled movie

Nowhere in scientific methodology is it appropriate to pronounce anything "irreducibly complex." A major motivation for scientists is curiosity. They just don't throw up their hands like that and say, "it can't be done." That ID seems to have hung their hat on IC seems to make it, In the words of o...
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:09 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Evolutionary Psychology in Robots
Replies: 13
Views: 2091

Re: Evolutionary Psychology in Robots

When I had to write programs for class, (java, C, assembly), if I were to "mutate" my code after spending hours getting it to work, I would not have received a passing grade on the assignment. I am reminded of Dawkin's mutation program which selected the mutated sentence that came closer to a pre-co...
by AttentionKMartShoppers
Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:59 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Ben Stein - Expelled movie
Replies: 128
Views: 19891

Re: Ben Stein - Expelled movie

Interesting review at http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2008/02/expelled.html . Expelled Last month, I was able to watch a screening of Ben Stein's upcoming movie, Expelled (http://www.getexpelled.com/). Stein was there at the presentation too, so I got to sit through a little Q&A with him. At the time...