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by WWJnotD
Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:00 am
Forum: Christian Theology
Topic: Bible stories literal or symbolic?
Replies: 149
Views: 40332

Re: Bible stories literal or symbolic?

Sorry, can't do that… You don't have Satan in the garden. All you have is a walking talking snake selling fruit to people. That is all you get IF you want to take a literal stance on it. Future revelation simply confirms that Adam and Eve were talking to the devil. I haven't really thought much abo...
by WWJnotD
Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:46 am
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: My creation/evolution theory
Replies: 34
Views: 13320

Re: My creation/evolution theory

A stupid question? I don't think so, and I definitely don't appreciate you saying it either. I don't go by what man says I should believe on EVOLUTION. That is the topic here, not WWII. Changing the subject and calling other people's questions stupid is not going to help your situation at all. :evi...
by WWJnotD
Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:08 am
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: My creation/evolution theory
Replies: 34
Views: 13320

Re: My creation/evolution theory

No offense, but these are the words and quotes from a MAN. A MAN'S ideas. Where does it specify in the BIBLE anything about evolution? What does GOD say about it? Like the Bible is gonna contain any information about molecule to man evolution lol. Thats like the stupidist question ever its like me ...
by WWJnotD
Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:41 am
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: My creation/evolution theory
Replies: 34
Views: 13320

Re: My creation/evolution theory

Actually, evolution is based on an interpretation of THEORIES, not facts, and that interpretation is scientific in nature, not religious. Erm EVolution is a theory? There are basic facts and data in the world. Theories are used to interpret that data into a reliable consistant framework. Evolution ...
by WWJnotD
Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:21 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Local Flood vs Global Flood
Replies: 272
Views: 73155

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

what we would have seen in the Flood doesn't fit the evidence at all. Well I kinda think it does, e.g Fossils of sea creatures high above sea level due to ocean waters flooded over the continents, Rapidly deposited sediment layers spread across vast areas, Rapid or no erosion between strata, Many s...
by WWJnotD
Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:30 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Local Flood vs Global Flood
Replies: 272
Views: 73155

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

So, other than the beginning of life, do you believe that evolution can account for the speciation of the animals and plants? It would seem you do, because such a large speciation event such as the one after the flood, as you say happened, WOULD have required both mutations and natural selection, i...
by WWJnotD
Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:23 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Local Flood vs Global Flood
Replies: 272
Views: 73155

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

Secondly, I find this last statement about the speed of speciation to be rather humorous. Why would the rate of speciation be any higher? AS you pointed out, natural selection alone does not lead to evolutionary changes, but we also need mutations and other genome shifting events. So you must state...
by WWJnotD
Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:01 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Local Flood vs Global Flood
Replies: 272
Views: 73155

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

This looks like a case of "picking and choosing" what you "allow" and what you don't "allow". You allow natural selection, which is one of the major driving forces of evolution, and speciation, which are the results of evolution, and at the same time say that evolution...
by WWJnotD
Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:52 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Local Flood vs Global Flood
Replies: 272
Views: 73155

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

But the second problem is once the animals get off, what is the mechanism by which the "kinds" turn into the species we see today? Creationists find evolution "taboo" but this is exactly what you are insinuating when you mention "natural selection". This speciation thr...
by WWJnotD
Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:24 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Local Flood vs Global Flood
Replies: 272
Views: 73155

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

A quick reading of the English text of Genesis 6-9 gives readers—at least since the time of world exploration—the impression of a global event. However, scientific evidence to the contrary seems clear and compelling. This evidence includes the lack of sufficient quantities of water and the ark's in...
by WWJnotD
Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:09 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Son's of God (Nephilim)
Replies: 31
Views: 8440

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

However, God failed to wipe out these "fallen angels" if that was the reason for the flood. To quote a page at ecclesia.org: In Genesis 6:4, "There were giants [nephilim] in the earth in those days; and also after that... the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.&q...
by WWJnotD
Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:59 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Local Flood vs Global Flood
Replies: 272
Views: 73155

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

Also if you say that the flood is local God is the most illogical person ever. Since why would you make a man make a huge boat gather 2 of every animal from over the whole earth on to it. God could have said just move to here, out of the region I'm gonna flood so you won't die. Why would you move al...
by WWJnotD
Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:58 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Local Flood vs Global Flood
Replies: 272
Views: 73155

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

That said, all of this stuff with the mass deposits of animals can easily explained by modern scientific thinking. These animals, all living at different times, were struck by a flash flood and were buried quickly in a local event (not talking the local Black Sea flood event but many others). For e...
by WWJnotD
Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:31 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Local Flood vs Global Flood
Replies: 272
Views: 73155

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

On the other thing you mention... that is often-quoted and very poor evidence for a global flood. One, if the rain was coming down and down for 40 days and nights, the animals would have plenty of time to run away and seek high ground. They sure as heck wouldn't die with food in their mouths or cow...
by WWJnotD
Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:35 am
Forum: Creation Talk
Topic: My creation/evolution theory
Replies: 34
Views: 13320

Re: My creation/evolution theory

I don't rate this theory highly lol since i don't think there is a problem between Creationism and evolution in the first place in that Evolution (molecules to man) is based on an interpretation of facts and that interpretation is religious in nature not scientific. The only reason people think the ...