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by Forum Monk
Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:29 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Local Flood vs Global Flood
Replies: 272
Views: 49339

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

The Local Flood Theory (shortened to LFT in this post), has no problem ridiculing the "absurd" science of the global flood while ignoring the huge shortcomings of their own proposal. Not only is the science for the local flood weak and highly speculative, but the required reinterpretation of scriptu...
by Forum Monk
Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:05 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Son's of God (Nephilim)
Replies: 31
Views: 5640

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

From what I can remeber, the only text which described the angels with respect to their "domestic" relations is this (repeated in otherGosples as well): Matthew 22:29-31 (New International Version) New International Version (NIV) Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society 29Jesus re...
by Forum Monk
Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:52 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Son's of God (Nephilim)
Replies: 31
Views: 5640

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

I like your respone WWJnotD. It makes good sense to me. The idea of angels having physical relationships with women is interesting but disputed, if I may take a moment to continue this track on the flood thread. Augustine's "City of God" offers a popular view that "sons of god" and "daughters of men...
by Forum Monk
Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:46 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Local Flood vs Global Flood
Replies: 272
Views: 49339

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

Gman, You're arguing with yourself. I already said that technically, according to strict and literal translation you are correct: judgement came because of MAN's corruption. But what was destroyed as a result? You said it yourself in both the old and new testament: the EARTH. That is the point. Ever...
by Forum Monk
Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:26 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Local Flood vs Global Flood
Replies: 272
Views: 49339

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

So then why are you engaging into this discussion? What are you concerned about then? I am engaging in this discussion because its an open forum and I have refuted all of your mistranslation arguments before. I am concerned about altering the meaning of the Bible. It is not necessary unless you wan...
by Forum Monk
Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:38 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Local Flood vs Global Flood
Replies: 272
Views: 49339

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

Most people don't really care about science so they just accept the Bible's explanation for lack of a better alternative. They say "well God is powerful and I want to go to Heaven so the Bible MUST be literal". The majority of everyday Americans don't neccessarily want to be closely related to apes...
by Forum Monk
Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:20 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Local Flood vs Global Flood
Replies: 272
Views: 49339

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

You need to look ahead to the next few verses to get the explanation... In the hebrew, it actually backfires on the "all flesh" english meaning. "The key is in Genesis 6:12: And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. (KJV) The pur...
by Forum Monk
Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:11 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: DNA against Evolution
Replies: 46
Views: 8627

Re: DNA against Evolution

If you go to the reference section of Behe's book you will find the peer reviewed articles you are looking for. Well frankbaginsky, to be perfectly honest with you, those who know me also know I have been an ardent opponent to ID as well. My position is and has been, either God created life or he d...
by Forum Monk
Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:20 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Local Flood vs Global Flood
Replies: 272
Views: 49339

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

Just in case, anyone is interested, most of these very same arguments were discussed recently in my thread "The Case for the Global Flood" posted here: http://discussions.godandscience.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3105 Either side of the debate may find some interesting ideas or links in that thread. :wi...
by Forum Monk
Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:14 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: DNA against Evolution
Replies: 46
Views: 8627

Re: DNA against Evolution

Do you really wish to commit the genetic fallacy?...If it means a lot to you then by all means believe it. I don't however, and I have no issue with Christians who do. I have no idea what you mean by the "genetic fallacy" and I don't have the energy tonight to look it up. I should have been clearer...
by Forum Monk
Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:30 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: DNA against Evolution
Replies: 46
Views: 8627

Re: DNA against Evolution

Kurieuo wrote:Yet, many who disagree with evolution, that is a Neo-Darwinian form of evolution, are doing so on scientific grounds and not necessarily religious.
Such as...?
Are any non-christian or at least have any of them not written a book advocating a christian world-view?
by Forum Monk
Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:58 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Gen 1 Defies Physics Laws
Replies: 146
Views: 20090

Re: Gen 1 Defies Physics Laws

Genesis does not have any problems with physics. The Bible and the data of science fit seamless. The opinion of science is another thing.... Hi Frank, Welcome to the forum. I agree with some of your statements. In general science requires observation and interpretation and it is often the latter th...
by Forum Monk
Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:22 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Gen 1 Defies Physics Laws
Replies: 146
Views: 20090

Re: Gen 1 Defies Physics Laws

It seems to me that detailed analysis of every biblical passage is filled with the danger of flawed human interpretation. After all, even in Jesus' time, just 2000 years agao, people had to be presented with parables (aka analogies) to help them understand. Hi retirebob, This was your first post I ...
by Forum Monk
Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:37 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Local Flood vs Global Flood
Replies: 272
Views: 49339

Re: Local Flood vs Global Flood

Having been through all of these arguments on this board, not long ago, we established beyond any doubt that God was fully capable of flooding the planet and saving eight humans and the various "kinds" of life that could not endure a flood. Afterall, God is God and he can do all things - God is a Go...
by Forum Monk
Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:02 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Gen 1 Defies Physics Laws
Replies: 146
Views: 20090

Re: Gen 1 Defies Physics Laws

Maybe, I'll drop in for a while but at a much more reduced pace than before and resurrect my avatar. (maybe a new one this time) - but not tonight.