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by Nils
Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:40 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
Replies: 121
Views: 80221

Re: Can Mutation Invent?

I don’t agree or understand either and you are only repeating the two positions without trying to explain. Oh... I have a hunch that you understand my argument and the logic behind my argument perfectly well. The logic is neither difficult or complicated... and I am convinced your reasoning capabil...
by Nils
Thu Feb 03, 2022 3:40 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
Replies: 121
Views: 80221

Re: Can Mutation Invent?

I still don’t understand your logic. Even more, if it were as you say, what is the reason for comparing the speeds ? We both agree that the left road is blocked. Why not discuss the properties of the right without comparing with the blocked one all the time? I really don’t understand. Because compa...
by Nils
Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:41 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
Replies: 121
Views: 80221

Re: Can Mutation Invent?

I still don’t understand your logic. Even more, if it were as you say, what is the reason for comparing the speeds ? We both agree that the left road is blocked. Why not discuss the properties of the right without comparing with the blocked one all the time? I really don’t understand. Because compa...
by Nils
Fri Jan 28, 2022 1:33 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
Replies: 121
Views: 80221

Re: Can Mutation Invent?

Stipulating to 3a, would you agree with the following two statements? 1) Coordinated random mutations involving six or more non-beneficial mutations (substitutions/adds) exceeds the capability of all life that has ever existed on this planet. 2) Observable random beneficial mutations (substitutions...
by Nils
Thu Jan 27, 2022 4:01 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
Replies: 121
Views: 80221

Re: Can Mutation Invent?

Stipulating to 3a, would you agree with the following two statements? 1) Coordinated random mutations involving six or more non-beneficial mutations (substitutions/adds) exceeds the capability of all life that has ever existed on this planet. 2) Observable random beneficial mutations (substitutions...
by Nils
Thu Jan 27, 2022 2:58 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
Replies: 121
Views: 80221

Re: Can Mutation Invent?

As I wrote above, your argument is obvious erroneously. If you think it isn’t, please explain: How can you say anything about the possibility of random beneficial mutation generating advanced functions based on the evidence you have seen and has been presented in this thread? I think the logic is s...
by Nils
Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:15 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
Replies: 121
Views: 80221

Re: Can Mutation Invent?

As I wrote above, your argument is obvious erroneously. If you think it isn’t, please explain: How can you say anything about the possibility of random beneficial mutation generating advanced functions based on the evidence you have seen and has been presented in this thread? I think the logic is s...
by Nils
Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:02 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
Replies: 121
Views: 80221

Re: Can Mutation Invent?

As I wrote above, your argument is obvious erroneously. If you think it isn’t, please explain: How can you say anything about the possibility of random beneficial mutation generating advanced functions based on the evidence you have seen and has been presented in this thread? I think the logic is s...
by Nils
Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:23 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
Replies: 121
Views: 80221

Re: Can Mutation Invent?

There are two potential methods for evolution. One using non-beneficial and one using beneficial mutations. We agree on that and also on that the non-beneficial method isn’t possible for more than two or perhaps three necessary mutations. This makes it impossible for advanced functions. This makes ...
by Nils
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:37 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
Replies: 121
Views: 80221

Re: Can Mutation Invent?

Until we see empirically observable evidence that beneficial mutations are able to produce coordinated adds and substitutions at a rate orders of magnitude faster than the observed capability of non-beneficial mutations, then the observable evidence indicates that the capability of non-beneficial m...
by Nils
Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:41 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
Replies: 121
Views: 80221

Re: Can Mutation Invent?

Perhaps we can stop here for a while and try to summarize. We agree that any function that involves six or more non-beneficial random mutations working together exceeds the capability of all life that has ever existed on this planet. (And as we are discussing the evolution theory, we should stick t...
by Nils
Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:41 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
Replies: 121
Views: 80221

Re: Can Mutation Invent?

Stipulating to your statement: "That doesn’t mean that every case with beneficial mutations is more rapid than some case with non-beneficial mutations." Do you agree with the following statement... In order to create the tree of life, the number of empirically observable examples of combi...
by Nils
Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:56 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
Replies: 121
Views: 80221

Re: Can Mutation Invent?

Stipulating to your statement: "That doesn’t mean that every case with beneficial mutations is more rapid than some case with non-beneficial mutations." Do you agree with the following statement... In order to create the tree of life, the number of empirically observable examples of combi...
by Nils
Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:45 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
Replies: 121
Views: 80221

Re: Can Mutation Invent?

==> 3. A string of beneficial mutations (substitutions/adds) will hypothetically work together to form new functions at a rate that is exponentially faster than non-beneficial mutations work together to form new functions and 4. we should be able to empirically observe orders of magnitude more stri...
by Nils
Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:31 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Can Mutation Invent?
Replies: 121
Views: 80221

Re: Can Mutation Invent?

The conclusion is that the frequency of the combination of non-beneficial mutations (for instance in the malaria bacteria) says nothing about the frequencies of combinations of beneficial mutations. I understand the premise perfectly well... Here are the assumptions... 1. A string of non-beneficial...