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by Nils
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:12 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural
Replies: 325
Views: 19286

Re: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural

In #203 I wrote that “the majority of men believes in a God”. That is a reason why I think you can’t avoid the burden of proof, if you are an atheist and discussing religion. You have to tackle the question: Why do so many believe in a God? But I also indicated that you don’t have to take the discus...
by Nils
Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:34 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural
Replies: 325
Views: 19286

Re: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural

An atheist may take the position that she as being an atheist don’t have do explain why she is an atheist, that the burden of proof rests only on the theist. Which is true. Nobody has to explain what or why they believe the way they do unless they are trying to convince others to believe like them....
by Nils
Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:26 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural
Replies: 325
Views: 19286

Re: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural

Nils, Take these two statements: 1) I don't believe unicorns exist. 2) I believe unicorns don't exist. In order for me to make either of those statements, I have to have some idea of what a unicorn is, correct? It, depends on the context, see below. If you had never heard of Stegosauria yesterday, ...
by Nils
Thu Jul 04, 2019 2:06 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural
Replies: 325
Views: 19286

Re: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural

Rick, In #159 you said; "I don't believe unicorns exist." Is the same as saying, "I believe unicorns don't exist." This may be restated as: 1) X don’t believe that Y exists 2) X believes that Y doesn’t exist If we are talking about what was the case yesterday and X is myself and Y is Stegosauria (a ...
by Nils
Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:48 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Abortion Debate
Replies: 136
Views: 10393

Re: Abortion Debate

hCnZOvjJgwo Nessa, when I look at this video I find no good arguments. She said that the young fetuses are innocent human beings. That is correct but why is it good to assign human rights to them, she didn’t say. She compared abortion with slavery and holocaust. Does she really think that the lives...
by Nils
Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:12 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Abortion Debate
Replies: 136
Views: 10393

Re: Abortion Debate

You don't think there are any objective true moral statements? I think you're lying to yourself on that one. Take this statement: "It is wrong to rape and murder children." You don't think that's objectively true? Nils: Morality is apparently different in different cultures. Se for instance what is...
by Nils
Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:47 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Abortion Debate
Replies: 136
Views: 10393

Re: Abortion Debate

Nils wrote: Thank you, Rick, for a clear answer. Just to be quite sure, I summarize: You think that it is objectively true that young fetuses have a right to live, but you haven't any argument to motivate your thought. That seems to be a view that is held by many “pro-lifers”. What!?!?! No, human l...
by Nils
Wed Apr 03, 2019 1:10 pm
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Abortion Debate
Replies: 136
Views: 10393

Re: Abortion Debate

Nils wrote: I accept that there is a human being from conception. You say that killing the human being right after conception is “simply wrong”. That is what I listed as argument 5 in my post #57: "5. It IS wrong to abort young fetuses! But this is not an argument, only an ungrounded statement." Ni...
by Nils
Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:17 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Abortion Debate
Replies: 136
Views: 10393

Re: Abortion Debate

Even Nils would recoil away if you touch him/her, so what does that prove? Does he/she feel anything that is similar to human pain? Your statements tell me much Nils. " The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. " Sorry, Kurieuo. Your statements don't tell me...
by Nils
Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:36 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Abortion Debate
Replies: 136
Views: 10393

Re: Abortion Debate

Now you might debate or disagree with 8 weeks. I've just quoted an expert in the field. But, I'm wondering. Did you come to your 22 week conclusion by consistently applying your belief that personhood is had as an attribute of our brain? Did you come to the conclusion that 22 weeks is the time a pe...
by Nils
Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:10 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Abortion Debate
Replies: 136
Views: 10393

Re: Abortion Debate

4) with few exceptions, it’s wrong to kill a) born human beings, b) old fetuses, and c) young fetuses. Nils wrote: I know the arguments for 4a and 4b but I don’t know any good argument for 4c. What I claim is that the arguments for 4a and 4b aren’t extended automatically to 4c which you seems to th...
by Nils
Sun Mar 31, 2019 11:52 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Abortion Debate
Replies: 136
Views: 10393

Re: Abortion Debate

It's not complicated, Nils. It's wrong to kill an unborn human being, because it's wrong to kill any human being, except in certain circumstances, such as self defense, or if the person is threatening another person. I believe many argue that though it is wrong to kill a person, the fetus isn't a p...
by Nils
Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:21 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Abortion Debate
Replies: 136
Views: 10393

Re: Abortion Debate

It's not complicated, Nils. It's wrong to kill an unborn human being, because it's wrong to kill any human being, except in certain circumstances, such as self defense, or if the person is threatening another person. I believe many argue that though it is wrong to kill a person, the fetus isn't a p...
by Nils
Sun Mar 31, 2019 8:09 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Abortion Debate
Replies: 136
Views: 10393

Re: Abortion Debate

In regards to abortion, the debate is actually quite simple: What is the JUSTIFICATION for taking a life. To be terminate a pregnancy means to take a life ( if it wasn't alive then you wouldn't need to terminate it, i.e. kill it). So, putting aside right and wrong since we can justify a wrong act (...
by Nils
Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:06 am
Forum: Moral and Ethical Affairs
Topic: Abortion Debate
Replies: 136
Views: 10393

Re: Abortion Debate

In regards to abortion, the debate is actually quite simple: What is the JUSTIFICATION for taking a life. To be terminate a pregnancy means to take a life ( if it wasn't alive then you wouldn't need to terminate it, i.e. kill it). So, putting aside right and wrong since we can justify a wrong act (...