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by jalvarez4Jesus
Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:18 pm
Forum: The Bible and Scripture
Topic: Hermeneutics, Divine & Human Authorship & Age of Earth
Replies: 143
Views: 27634

Re: Unlocking an Old Earth Understanding on YEC Terms

Unlocking an Old Earth Understanding on YEC Terms It's with great excitement that I write this post. What I’m about to do here is provide a high-level interpretation of Genesis on the primary dividing point between YECs and Day-Age proponents — yom translated “day”. BUT, not just that. I’m going to...
by jalvarez4Jesus
Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:36 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Most Wild View On Creation
Replies: 119
Views: 19997

Re: The Most Wild View On Creation

RickD wrote:
Kurieuo wrote:Now ACB Jac has a gap YEC buddy. ;)
There K. Fixed it for ya!
Not sure I'd get along too well with someone who put me on his permignore list like a y~:> . I would have at least tried to answer myself, not ignore me (hope that makes sense :lol: ).
by jalvarez4Jesus
Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:35 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Most Wild View On Creation
Replies: 119
Views: 19997

Re: The Most Wild View On Creation

RickD wrote:Don't most Christians believe what they believe, because of what they think scripture says, not regardless of what they think scripture says?
Not really.
by jalvarez4Jesus
Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:11 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Most Wild View On Creation
Replies: 119
Views: 19997

Re: The Most Wild View On Creation

Well jalvarez, Cat got your tongue? Or were you just yec all along, pretending to shop at the GAP? Nobody so easily, gives up on a belief that they defended as much as you defended your Gap Theory. So what's the deal? Did Kent Hovind send you here from his jail cell? *edit-nevermind. It seems Hovin...
by jalvarez4Jesus
Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:26 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Science vs Zeteticism?
Replies: 2
Views: 1295

Science vs Zeteticism?

I wanted to know from the fellow members here which method they think is better for coming to sound conclusions about the world we live in: Science or Zeteticism. To sum up the differences, Science starts with a hypothesis, then seeks to test it with experiments. If the hypothesis is tested to be co...
by jalvarez4Jesus
Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:49 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Most Wild View On Creation
Replies: 119
Views: 19997

Re: The Most Wild View On Creation

Well, bad news guys (not really, lol). I no longer am a gapper. But it wasn't because of "the Hebrew" or whatever. I still think Genesis 1:2 is chronologically after 1:1, but not by more than a day's time. Probably just a few seconds or so. Regardless, what convinced me (to now come back to YEC) wa...
by jalvarez4Jesus
Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:25 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Most Wild View On Creation
Replies: 119
Views: 19997

Re: The Most Wild View On Creation

Well, bad news guys (not really, lol). I no longer am a gapper. But it wasn't because of "the Hebrew" or whatever. I still think Genesis 1:2 is chronologically after 1:1, but not by more than a day's time. Probably just a few seconds or so. Regardless, what convinced me (to now come back to YEC) was...
by jalvarez4Jesus
Sun Oct 09, 2016 8:55 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Most Wild View On Creation
Replies: 119
Views: 19997

Re: The Most Wild View On Creation

It appears one of our admins is throwing a temper tantrum. I'll come back later.
by jalvarez4Jesus
Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:30 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Most Wild View On Creation
Replies: 119
Views: 19997

Re: The Most Wild View On Creation

"And the earth was without form, and void,.... It was not in the form it now is, otherwise it must have a form, as all matter has; it was A FLUID MATTER, the WATERY parts were not separated from the earthy ones; it was not put into the form of a terraqueous globe it is now, the sea apart, and the ea...
by jalvarez4Jesus
Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:29 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Most Wild View On Creation
Replies: 119
Views: 19997

Re: The Most Wild View On Creation

"the earth was without form and void—or in "confusion and emptiness," as the words are rendered in Isa 34:11. This globe, at some undescribed period, having been convulsed and broken up, was A DARK AND WATERY WASTE for ages perhaps, till out of this chaotic state, the present fabric of the world was...
by jalvarez4Jesus
Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:28 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Most Wild View On Creation
Replies: 119
Views: 19997

Re: The Most Wild View On Creation

Here's another thing: The Geneva Bible: "And the earth was [a] without form and void, and [c]darkness was upon the [d]deep, and the Spirit of God [e]moved upon the [f]waters." Here's a footnote from the translators (who knew Hebrew) [a]: "As a rude lump and without any creature in it: FOR THE WATERS...
by jalvarez4Jesus
Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:23 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Most Wild View On Creation
Replies: 119
Views: 19997

Re: The Most Wild View On Creation

Rick, words are defined by the way they are used in literature. In the Hebrew literature of Genesis 1:2, tohuw is used to describe a water filled earth with no land (no form). Thus, it can mean a watery mess. It's that simple.
by jalvarez4Jesus
Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:56 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Most Wild View On Creation
Replies: 119
Views: 19997

Re: The Most Wild View On Creation

Yes, I see the meanings, but the meaning of a word isn't limited to how its defined in a dictionary, but how its used in literature. Tohuw (without form) in Genesis 1:2 clearly means a watery mess. Tohuw in Jeremiah 4 also means a watery mess (mainly because of strong similarities between that vers...
by jalvarez4Jesus
Sat Oct 08, 2016 3:47 pm
Forum: God and Science
Topic: Debunking The Anti-Gap "Grammatical Argument"
Replies: 43
Views: 7239

Re: Debunking The Anti-Gap "Grammatical Argument"

I think you just admitted that its possible for there to be a gap in between 1:1 and 1:2, but you don't see any evidence for it. Okay. At least now its moved from the realm of the "impossible" to the "improbable". That's progress.
by jalvarez4Jesus
Sat Oct 08, 2016 10:22 am
Forum: God and Science
Topic: The Most Wild View On Creation
Replies: 119
Views: 19997

Re: The Most Wild View On Creation

Yes, I see the meanings, but the meaning of a word isn't limited to how its defined in a dictionary, but how its used in literature. Tohuw (without form) in Genesis 1:2 clearly means a watery mess. Tohuw in Jeremiah 4 also means a watery mess (mainly because of strong similarities between that verse...