Evidence for God from Science

The point is Kenny you know murdering someone because of the colour of their skin is wrong independent of people's opinions, you know it to your core. So be honest with what that conclusion means with regard to an objective moral reality. We've been over this already; calling morality Objective doe...

It doesn't have to be absolutely proven, we only need to establish that it is innately true or self evidently true. Sorry but I'm gonna have to disagree with you my friend; facts do have to be absolutely proven. If it isn't absolutely proven it isn't a fact. Ken Squirm all you like Kenny! I may hav...

The point is Kenny you know murdering someone because of the colour of their skin is wrong independent of people's opinions, you know it to your core. So be honest with what that conclusion means with regard to an objective moral reality.

It doesn't have to be absolutely proven, we only need to establish that it is innately true or self evidently true. And you innately know it to be true regardless of other people's opinions as do many others, that's enough to establish that objective morality exists

Of course it is wrong! I’ve never suggested it was anything other than! But it is subjectively wrong; not objectively wrong. I never said you did. But it seems you side stepped the deeper question in a slight of hand. You didn't agree that it is wrong regardless of what other people think. Therefor...

Of course it is wrong! I’ve never suggested it was anything other than! But it is subjectively wrong; not objectively wrong. I never said you did. But it seems you side stepped the deeper question in a slight of hand. You didn't agree that it is wrong regardless of what other people think. Therefor...

Kenny, Your response demonstrates that either you fail to understand what I wrote or perhaps you are trying to side step answering it directly because you didn't like the conclusion. The reasons for someone committing murder are by definition subjective Kenny, whether murder is right or wrong is a d...

To clarify further Kenny.. To say morality is subjective is to say morality is dependent upon peoples opinions. To say morality is objective is to say there are certain actions which are right or wrong independent of people's opinions. So for example, to say murder is objectively wrong is to say it ...

Kenny, Regardless you still fail to see that you employ an objective moral reality in order for your "consideration" about what's moral to take place. What is it about my moral views that convinces you that they are objective? Ken Why are your subjective moral opinions any better than any...

Kenny, Regardless you still fail to see that you employ an objective moral reality in order for your "consideration" about what's moral to take place. Interestingly, you are doing this also in your comment where some of your views you wouldn't ask God to consider. We have had this discussi...

Kenny,

So you want God to take into consideration murder and torture etc. and not some of your other opinions, to also say they are purely your subjective moral opinions.

Meanwhile failing to see that you are declaring God as the objective moral reality!

Kenny you are seriously blind!

Interesting situation here...

Now to heat up some popcorn...

Kenny wrote: I said I am certain that YOUR concept of God is not behind what exists.

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Kenny wrote: Of the options on that list, I would have to go with Omnipresence, and Omniscience.

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Certain huh? Wow Kenny are you omniscient?

In all honesty one of the first books I read on philosophy was: Philosophical Foundations for a Christian Worldview http://www.amazon.com/Philosophical-Foundations-Christian-Worldview-Moreland-ebook/dp/B002W5GQ3G/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1417186529&sr=1-1&keywords=philos...

Bah, I thought I was going to get some entertainment here. Instead, you're both scared to debate each other. Exiting the stage different sides. Meh. I want a refund! Scared huh? Me? Ha. Ya wanna start somethin' bud? Huh??? This is what I want to start... :cheers: When? Your shout.. Oh yeah. I still...