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by Kenny
Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:19 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: WLC and the moral argument
Replies: 35
Views: 242

Re: WLC and the moral argument

Paul, You seem to be saying that we cannot discuss what is right, and what is wrong, unless we first acknowledge that things are in fact morally right or morally wrong. Which I agree with. But, the issue is where morality comes from. Someone like Kenny says that there is such a thing as morality, b...
by Kenny
Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:09 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural
Replies: 122
Views: 1742

Re: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural

PaulSacramento wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:17 pm
What do you think "eternal" means ken?
In the context of this conversation; always existing. What do you think it means?
by Kenny
Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:08 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural
Replies: 122
Views: 1742

Re: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural

Basically my replies were: *How do you know there can only be one eternal thing, *How do you know that which is eternal cannot be material I know because you have proven time and again that you have no concept of what logic is even though you pretend otherwise. From time to time I engage in your th...
by Kenny
Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:09 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural
Replies: 122
Views: 1742

Re: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural

Byblos wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:43 am
Kenny wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:39 am
Post #110 I offered why I disagree.
Kenny must have me on ignore. There is hope after all. :lol:
No you aren't on ignore, I'm at work right now and only have a few minutes at a time to respond; yours is quite long so I will have to respond later when I get more time
by Kenny
Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:39 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural
Replies: 122
Views: 1742

Re: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural

Because if it changes it's affected by something else. If it's affected by something else it can't be the first cause. I am arguing about the possibility of multiple things acting upon each other while being a first cause. Why isn't that possible? Seriously? I just posted the answer to this in post...
by Kenny
Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:34 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural
Replies: 122
Views: 1742

Re: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural

Storyteller wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:18 am
Because if it changes it's affected by something else. If it's affected by something else it can't be the first cause.
I am arguing about the possibility of multiple things acting upon each other while being a first cause. Why isn't that possible?
by Kenny
Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:18 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: WLC and the moral argument
Replies: 35
Views: 242

Re: WLC and the moral argument

Kenny, What I've shown you there, is how someone can understand a differing point of view, and present that differing point of view, without arguing against a straw man. So that way, both sides know that the differing point of view is understood. It's an amazing concept. You should try it sometime....
by Kenny
Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:58 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural
Replies: 122
Views: 1742

Re: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural

Why cant eternal things be material? Because matter changes. Something eternal cannot change. Why can't something eternal be in a constant state of change? Also, we only know of approx 4% of the Universe. We shouldn't assume we can judge the 96% we know nothing about based on the 4% we do know about.
by Kenny
Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:39 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: WLC and the moral argument
Replies: 35
Views: 242

Re: WLC and the moral argument

Paul, You seem to be saying that we cannot discuss what is right, and what is wrong, unless we first acknowledge that things are in fact morally right or morally wrong. Which I agree with. But, the issue is where morality comes from. Someone like Kenny says that there is such a thing as morality, b...
by Kenny
Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:59 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: WLC and the moral argument
Replies: 35
Views: 242

Re: WLC and the moral argument

Paul, You seem to be saying that we cannot discuss what is right, and what is wrong, unless we first acknowledge that things are in fact morally right or morally wrong. Which I agree with. But, the issue is where morality comes from. Someone like Kenny says that there is such a thing as morality, b...
by Kenny
Wed Jun 19, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural
Replies: 122
Views: 1742

Re: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural

Again Kenny, Here's the explanation from Byblos, that you either cannot refute, or refuse to acknowledge. From the discussion here Ken The reason is very simple and very logical (and I and Jac have stated it many timers before, in this thread and others). But it keeps coming up again and again so I...
by Kenny
Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:09 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: WLC and the moral argument
Replies: 35
Views: 242

Re: WLC and the moral argument

Paul, You seem to be saying that we cannot discuss what is right, and what is wrong, unless we first acknowledge that things are in fact morally right or morally wrong. Which I agree with. But, the issue is where morality comes from. Someone like Kenny says that there is such a thing as morality, b...
by Kenny
Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:08 pm
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: WLC and the moral argument
Replies: 35
Views: 242

Re: WLC and the moral argument

PaulS wrote: For one to discuss what IS right and wrong ( subjective view), we must first accept that there IS Right and wrong ( Objective view). I'm not sure you have that correct. You may want to check your sources, and reword that. I think you may mean that one has to recognize that morals exist...
by Kenny
Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:42 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: WLC and the moral argument
Replies: 35
Views: 242

Re: WLC and the moral argument

I watched a good video recently of William Lane Craig speaking on the case for Christian theism. He mentioned the difference between moral ontology and epistemology, which has been explained on here before in a way I found confusing - that epistemology refers to what is right and wrong, while ontol...
by Kenny
Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:52 am
Forum: Philosophical Discussions
Topic: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural
Replies: 122
Views: 1742

Re: Many Atheists DO Believe in the Supernatural

Kenny wrote: I don't know what else to tell ya. Tell me, and others that have spent time having discussions with you, how you actually understand what is put forth to you, before you just dismiss what is said, solely because you don't like the implications. Put forth logical reasons for what you're...