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by Kenny
Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:21 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist
Replies: 297
Views: 6925

Re: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist

So the properties of what it is to be intelligent existed in living creatures? Eventually; yes. What do you mean eventually? They eventually came into being ? I mean the living creatures were not always intelligent and conscious but eventually evolved to become that way So, intelligence came into b...
by Kenny
Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:39 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist
Replies: 297
Views: 6925

Re: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist

So, it came to be only when living creatures came to be? Yes; only after living creatures came to be. So the properties of what it is to be intelligent existed in living creatures? Eventually; yes. What do you mean eventually? They eventually came into being ? I mean the living creatures were not a...
by Kenny
Fri Mar 15, 2019 7:29 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist
Replies: 297
Views: 6925

Re: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist

Ken: Ahh.... Looks like we've come full circle huh? I think the last time I've answered this question was post #239. Ken, you haven't even remotely credibly addressed my questions! From your post 239: "Just because in our daily lives everything that exists seems to have been created and therefore h...
by Kenny
Fri Mar 15, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist
Replies: 297
Views: 6925

Re: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist

Ken: Nicki, you’ve asked the wrong question dear. All questions require the per-determined answer of “God did it” and the way your question was asked, it had little to do with God and was more about how the brain works, how we label beings who think this way, blah, blah, blah... NO, Ken - at this p...
by Kenny
Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:43 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist
Replies: 297
Views: 6925

Re: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist

Nicki: if someone's brain works well and that results in accurate and helpful communication and efficient actions (I can't think of better words!) from them, we say they're intelligent. I'm not sure what that implies for theism vs atheism though. What it implies is that a being is designed to have ...
by Kenny
Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:59 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist
Replies: 297
Views: 6925

Re: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist

Colors, like blue, red, yellow, etc., are adjectives that describe nouns. Intelligence is a noun. Nouns do not describe other nouns, unless it's an attributive noun, which intelligence is not. Basic grammar. Intelligent, and Conscious are adjectives that describe nouns. I can kind of see where Kenn...
by Kenny
Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:27 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist
Replies: 297
Views: 6925

Re: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist

Ken: Are you are assuming material beings were created and designed rather than evolved from non-intelligent materials that may have always existed? Yes I am, Ken. Because non-intelligent things have NO abilities to do anything, much create or design anything. Your seeming speculation for what non-...
by Kenny
Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:24 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist
Replies: 297
Views: 6925

Re: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist

PaulSacramento wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:58 am
Kenny wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:33 am
PaulSacramento wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:18 am
Kenny wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:47 am
PaulSacramento wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:26 am


So, before there were living beings, there was no intelligence?
Yes.
So, it came to be only when living creatures came to be?
Yes; only after living creatures came to be.
So the properties of what it is to be intelligent existed in living creatures?
Eventually; yes.
by Kenny
Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:33 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist
Replies: 297
Views: 6925

Re: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist

PaulSacramento wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 7:18 am
Kenny wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:47 am
PaulSacramento wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:26 am
Kenny wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:04 pm
PaulSacramento wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:21 am
If intelligence is just a description of something, what is it describing?
Living beings.
So, before there were living beings, there was no intelligence?
Yes.
So, it came to be only when living creatures came to be?
Yes; only after living creatures came to be.
by Kenny
Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:33 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist
Replies: 297
Views: 6925

Re: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist

So, Ken, if it takes intelligence to create and design a material being that has the capabilities of consciousness and intelligence, and as material beings once did not exist, then that intelligence and design had to come from something NON-material that is both intelligent and eternal. This should...
by Kenny
Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:47 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist
Replies: 297
Views: 6925

Re: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist

PaulSacramento wrote:
Thu Mar 14, 2019 4:26 am
Kenny wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:04 pm
PaulSacramento wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:21 am
If intelligence is just a description of something, what is it describing?
Living beings.
So, before there were living beings, there was no intelligence?
Yes.
by Kenny
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:07 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist
Replies: 297
Views: 6925

Re: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist

RickD wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:43 am
Colors, like blue, red, yellow, etc., are adjectives that describe nouns. Intelligence is a noun. Nouns do not describe other nouns, unless it's an attributive noun, which intelligence is not.

Basic grammar.
Intelligent, and Conscious are adjectives that describe nouns.
by Kenny
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:04 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist
Replies: 297
Views: 6925

Re: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist

PaulSacramento wrote:
Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:21 am
If intelligence is just a description of something, what is it describing?
Living beings.
by Kenny
Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:02 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist
Replies: 297
Views: 6925

Re: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist

Ken: Sounds like you are acting as if consciousness and intelligence has an actual existence. Does the color blue come from nowhere? Do triangles come out of nowhere? No; these are just descriptions of things that exist. The same for intelligence and consciousness. You are confusing the fact that c...
by Kenny
Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:43 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist
Replies: 297
Views: 6925

Re: Top Ten Reasons I'm An Atheist

Even if something only had the potential to be intelligent, that means that the properties of intelligence would have to be present, correct? What do you mean by "the properties of intelligence"? What defines intelligence, what makes up intelligence, the traits as you put it. Okay; then I would say...