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by Kenny
Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:27 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 275008

Re: Atheist question

So if human intelligence is required for the existence of ordered, complex, structured data such as a novel or a computer program, would you agree that intelligence of some sort is also required for the existence of ordered, structured data that is more complex and intricate than a novel or compute...
by Kenny
Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:15 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 275008

Re: Atheist question

Kenny wrote: Personally I find it absurd to assume that just because we see order and structure as a human construct on Earth, that it has to be for the entire Universe. Kenny, If the universe didn't have consistent laws, or order, it wouldn't function as it does. You now go as far as saying that y...
by Kenny
Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:50 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 275008

Re: Atheist question

Kenny, Do you know of any case of information or data coming into existence from nothing? I see information like energy; it's all around us but it requires an intelligent person to extract it for usage. Information is like energy ? Do the information in your cells, in your DNA is like energy? How s...
by Kenny
Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:47 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 275008

Re: Atheist question

Can ordered, complex, structured data exist without intelligence? Can a novel exist without intelligence? Can a computer program exist without intelligence? Can a mathematical algorithm exist without intelligence? Can a scientific theory exist without intelligence? If by intelligence you mean peopl...
by Kenny
Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:58 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 275008

Re: Atheist question

PaulSacramento wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:24 am Kenny,
Do you know of any case of information or data coming into existence from nothing?
I see information like energy; it's all around us but it requires an intelligent person to extract it for usage.
by Kenny
Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:56 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 275008

Re: Atheist question

Information can't exist , without intelligence causing its existence. Data exists regardless of intelligence, and intelligent beings turn that data into information. Can ordered, complex, structured data exist without intelligence? Can a novel exist without intelligence? Can a computer program exis...
by Kenny
Fri Sep 13, 2019 2:49 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 275008

Re: Atheist question

Information can't exist , without intelligence causing its existence. Data exists regardless of intelligence, and intelligent beings turn that data into information. Can ordered, complex, structured data exist without intelligence? Can a novel exist without intelligence? Can a computer program exis...
by Kenny
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:13 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 275008

Re: Atheist question

Since we know from experience that it takes intelligence to create computer and mathematical models for the laws of physics, then we can infer that whatever caused the laws of physics as we understand them to work the way they do in our universe is at least more intelligent than those who create ma...
by Kenny
Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:01 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 275008

Re: Atheist question

Philip wrote: ↑ Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:46 pm But it is unreal that you consider that non-intelligent things is just as likely to have produced the stunning array of complex things and functionalities of Big Bang as did a Creative Intelligence. It simply boggles my mind that anyone would think either op...
by Kenny
Thu Sep 12, 2019 2:04 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 275008

Re: Atheist question

Since we know from experience that it takes intelligence to create computer and mathematical models for the laws of physics, then we can infer that whatever caused the laws of physics as we understand them to work the way they do in our universe is at least more intelligent than those who create ma...
by Kenny
Thu Sep 12, 2019 11:29 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 275008

Re: Atheist question

Since we know from experience that it takes intelligence to create computer and mathematical models for the laws of physics, then we can infer that whatever caused the laws of physics as we understand them to work the way they do in our universe is at least more intelligent than those who create ma...
by Kenny
Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:51 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 275008

Re: Atheist question

Since we know from experience that it takes intelligence to create computer and mathematical models for the laws of physics, then we can infer that whatever caused the laws of physics as we understand them to work the way they do in our universe is at least more intelligent than those who create ma...
by Kenny
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:25 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 275008

Re: Atheist question

So, clearly, you are only entertaining the idea that non-intelligent things could produce the events and wonders of the Big Bang, mostly because the only other alternative for you is there had to be a Creator. So clearly you believe an intelligent being could live eternally mostly because the only ...
by Kenny
Wed Sep 11, 2019 1:02 pm
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 275008

Re: Atheist question

I think the Big Bang theory is the best information scientists have at the moment., but has always pointed to something prior to it. The theory starts with the singularity already existing, so the obvious questions has always where did the singularity come from? What caused it to expand? What cause...
by Kenny
Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:33 am
Forum: Questioning Non-belief
Topic: Atheist question
Replies: 244
Views: 275008

Re: Atheist question

I think the Big Bang theory is the best information scientists have at the moment., but has always pointed to something prior to it. The theory starts with the singularity already existing, so the obvious questions has always where did the singularity come from? What caused it to expand? What cause...