Ain't it the truth, JP? You and me both

[ultimate777]

Ah! yes, I know: those who see me rarely trust my word: I must look too intelligent to keep it.
Jean-Paul Sartre

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[1over137]

Do you admire Sartre?

[1over137]

I like these:

Quotes

Isaac Newton:

Plato is my friend - Aristotle is my friend - but my greatest friend is truth.

If I have seen further it is by standing on the sholders of Giants.

To myself I am only a child playing on the beach, while vast oceans of truth lie undiscovered before me.

To explain all nature is too difficult a task for any one man or even for any one age. 'Tis much better to do a little with certainty, & leave the rest for others that come after you, than to explain all things by conjecture without making sure of any thing.

It is the perfection of God's works that they are all done with the greatest simplicity. He is the God of order and not of confusion.

Truth is ever to be found in simplicity, and not in the multiplicity and confusion of things.

We must be righteous & do to all men as we would they should do to us.

Blaise Pascal:

All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone.

Truth is so obscure in these times, and falsehood so established, that, unless we love the truth, we cannot know it.

The strength of a man's virtue should not be measured by his special exertions, but by his habitual acts.

Love has reasons which reason cannot understand.

The immortality of the soul is a matter which is of so great consequence to us and which touches us so profoundly that we must have lost all feeling to be indifferent about it.

Kind words do not cost much. Yet they accomplish much.

Nothing gives rest but the sincere search for truth.

There are two kinds of people one can call reasonable: those who serve God with all their heart because they know him, and those who seek him with all their heart because they do not know him.

Vanity of science. Knowledge of physical science will not console me for ignorance of morality in time of affliction, but knowledge of morality will always console me for ignorance of physical science.

One must know oneself. If this does not serve to discover truth, it at least serves as a rule of life and there is nothing better.

Richard P. Feynman:

By honest I don't mean that you only tell what's true. But you make clear the entire situation. You make clear all the information that is required for somebody else who is intelligent to make up their mind.

Poets say science takes away from the beauty of the stars - mere globs of gas atoms. I, too, can see the stars on a desert night, and feel them. But do I see less or more?

Reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled.

I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.

You can know the name of a bird in all the languages of the world, but when you're finished, you'll know absolutely nothing whatever about the bird... So let's look at the bird and see what it's doing -- that's what counts. I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something.

"We are at the very beginning of time for the human race. It is not unreasonable that we grapple with problems. There are tens of thousands of years in the future. Our responsibility is to do what we can, learn what we can, improve the solutions and pass them on. It is our responsibility to leave the man of the future a free hand. In the impetuous youth of humanity, we can make grave errors that can stunt our growth for a long time. This we will do if we say we have the answers now, so young and ignorant; if we suppress all discussion, all critisism, saying, "This is it, boys, man is saved!" and thus doom man for a long time to the chains of authority, confined to the limits of our present imagination. It has been done so many times before.

It is our responsibility as scientists, knowing the great progress and great value of a satisfactory philosophy of ignorance, the great progress that is the fruit of freedom of thought, to proclaim the value of this freedom, to teach how doubt is not to be feared but welcomed and discussed, and to demand this freedom as our duty to all coming generations."

Albert Einstein:

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science."

"A hundred times every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life depend on the labours of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received."

"Reading after a certain time diverts the mind too much from its creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain too little falls into lazy habits of thinking."

"I soon learned to scent out what was able to lead to fundamentals and to turn aside from everything else, from the multitude of things that clutter up the mind."

Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.

I am by heritage a Jew, by citizenship a Swiss, and by makeup a human being, and only a human being, without any special attachment to any state or national entity whatsoever.

In science, moreover, the work of the individual is so bound up with that of his scientific predecessors and contemporaries that it appears almost as an impersonal product of his generation.

carry such information in my mind since it is readily available in books. ...The value of a college education is not the learning of many facts but the training of the mind to think.

Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding. You cannot subjugate a nation forcibly unless you wipe out every man, woman, and child. Unless you wish to use such drastic measures, you must find a way of settling your disputes without resort to arms.

Why does this magnificent applied science which saves work and makes life easier bring us so little happiness? The simple answer runs: Because we have not yet learned to make sensible use of it.

Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.

Why is it nobody understands me and everybody likes me?

So many people today - and even professional scientists - seem to me like someone who has seen thousands of trees but has never seen a forest. A knowledge of the historic and philosophical background gives that kind of independence from prejudices of his generation from which most scientists are suffering. This independence created by philosophical insight is - in my opinion - the mark of distinction between a mere artisan or specialist and a real seeker after truth.

The release of atomic energy has not created a new problem. It has merely made more urgent the necessary solving of an existing one.

The ideals that have lighted my way, and time after time have given me new courage to face life cheerfully, have been Kindness, Beauty, and Truth.

Although I am a typical loner in daily life, my consciousness of belonging to the invisible community of those who strive for truth, beauty, and justice has preserved me from feeling isolated.

Marie Curie:

"All my life through, the new sights of Nature made me rejoice like a child."

"Be less curious about people and more curious about ideas."

"I was taught that the way of progress was neither swift nor easy."

"Life is not easy for any of us. But what of that? We must have perseverance and above all confidence in ourselves. We must believe that we are gifted for something and that this thing must be attained."

"Nothing in life is to be feared, it is only to be understood"

"You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful."

"Scientific work must not be considered from the point of view of the direct usefulness of it. It must be done for itself, for the beauty of science, and then there is always the chance that a scientific discovery may become like the radium, a benefit"

"That one must do some work seriously and must be independent and not merely amuse oneself in life -- this our mother has told us always, but never that science was the only career worth following." - Irene Joliet-Curie

[ultimate777]

Do you admire Sartre?

I haven't decided yet. I go years without even thinking about him. But a C.S. Lewis quote in this board or group or whatever reminded me of a Sartre quote.

[ultimate777]

I like these:

Quotes

Isaac Newton:

Plato is my friend - Aristotle is my friend - but my greatest friend is truth.

If I have seen further it is by standing on the sholders of Giants.

To myself I am only a child playing on the beach, while vast oceans of truth lie undiscovered before me.

To explain all nature is too difficult a task for any one man or even for any one age. 'Tis much better to do a little with certainty, & leave the rest for others that come after you, than to explain all things by conjecture without making sure of any thing.

It is the perfection of God's works that they are all done with the greatest simplicity. He is the God of order and not of confusion.

Truth is ever to be found in simplicity, and not in the multiplicity and confusion of things.

We must be righteous & do to all men as we would they should do to us.

Blaise Pascal:

All men's miseries derive from not being able to sit in a quiet room alone.

Truth is so obscure in these times, and falsehood so established, that, unless we love the truth, we cannot know it.

The strength of a man's virtue should not be measured by his special exertions, but by his habitual acts.

Love has reasons which reason cannot understand.

The immortality of the soul is a matter which is of so great consequence to us and which touches us so profoundly that we must have lost all feeling to be indifferent about it.

Kind words do not cost much. Yet they accomplish much.

Nothing gives rest but the sincere search for truth.

There are two kinds of people one can call reasonable: those who serve God with all their heart because they know him, and those who seek him with all their heart because they do not know him.

Vanity of science. Knowledge of physical science will not console me for ignorance of morality in time of affliction, but knowledge of morality will always console me for ignorance of physical science.

One must know oneself. If this does not serve to discover truth, it at least serves as a rule of life and there is nothing better.

Richard P. Feynman:

By honest I don't mean that you only tell what's true. But you make clear the entire situation. You make clear all the information that is required for somebody else who is intelligent to make up their mind.

Poets say science takes away from the beauty of the stars - mere globs of gas atoms. I, too, can see the stars on a desert night, and feel them. But do I see less or more?

Reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled.

I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.

You can know the name of a bird in all the languages of the world, but when you're finished, you'll know absolutely nothing whatever about the bird... So let's look at the bird and see what it's doing -- that's what counts. I learned very early the difference between knowing the name of something and knowing something.

"We are at the very beginning of time for the human race. It is not unreasonable that we grapple with problems. There are tens of thousands of years in the future. Our responsibility is to do what we can, learn what we can, improve the solutions and pass them on. It is our responsibility to leave the man of the future a free hand. In the impetuous youth of humanity, we can make grave errors that can stunt our growth for a long time. This we will do if we say we have the answers now, so young and ignorant; if we suppress all discussion, all critisism, saying, "This is it, boys, man is saved!" and thus doom man for a long time to the chains of authority, confined to the limits of our present imagination. It has been done so many times before.

It is our responsibility as scientists, knowing the great progress and great value of a satisfactory philosophy of ignorance, the great progress that is the fruit of freedom of thought, to proclaim the value of this freedom, to teach how doubt is not to be feared but welcomed and discussed, and to demand this freedom as our duty to all coming generations."

Albert Einstein:

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science."

"A hundred times every day I remind myself that my inner and outer life depend on the labours of other men, living and dead, and that I must exert myself in order to give in the same measure as I have received."

"Reading after a certain time diverts the mind too much from its creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain too little falls into lazy habits of thinking."

"I soon learned to scent out what was able to lead to fundamentals and to turn aside from everything else, from the multitude of things that clutter up the mind."

Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.

I am by heritage a Jew, by citizenship a Swiss, and by makeup a human being, and only a human being, without any special attachment to any state or national entity whatsoever.

In science, moreover, the work of the individual is so bound up with that of his scientific predecessors and contemporaries that it appears almost as an impersonal product of his generation.

carry such information in my mind since it is readily available in books. ...The value of a college education is not the learning of many facts but the training of the mind to think.

Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding. You cannot subjugate a nation forcibly unless you wipe out every man, woman, and child. Unless you wish to use such drastic measures, you must find a way of settling your disputes without resort to arms.

Why does this magnificent applied science which saves work and makes life easier bring us so little happiness? The simple answer runs: Because we have not yet learned to make sensible use of it.

Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.

Why is it nobody understands me and everybody likes me?

So many people today - and even professional scientists - seem to me like someone who has seen thousands of trees but has never seen a forest. A knowledge of the historic and philosophical background gives that kind of independence from prejudices of his generation from which most scientists are suffering. This independence created by philosophical insight is - in my opinion - the mark of distinction between a mere artisan or specialist and a real seeker after truth.

The release of atomic energy has not created a new problem. It has merely made more urgent the necessary solving of an existing one.

The ideals that have lighted my way, and time after time have given me new courage to face life cheerfully, have been Kindness, Beauty, and Truth.

Although I am a typical loner in daily life, my consciousness of belonging to the invisible community of those who strive for truth, beauty, and justice has preserved me from feeling isolated.

Marie Curie:

"All my life through, the new sights of Nature made me rejoice like a child."

"Be less curious about people and more curious about ideas."

"I was taught that the way of progress was neither swift nor easy."

"Life is not easy for any of us. But what of that? We must have perseverance and above all confidence in ourselves. We must believe that we are gifted for something and that this thing must be attained."

"Nothing in life is to be feared, it is only to be understood"

"You cannot hope to build a better world without improving the individuals. To that end each of us must work for his own improvement, and at the same time share a general responsibility for all humanity, our particular duty being to aid those to whom we think we can be most useful."

"Scientific work must not be considered from the point of view of the direct usefulness of it. It must be done for itself, for the beauty of science, and then there is always the chance that a scientific discovery may become like the radium, a benefit"

"That one must do some work seriously and must be independent and not merely amuse oneself in life -- this our mother has told us always, but never that science was the only career worth following." - Irene Joliet-Curie

Pretty good but too much right now to digest. Take it easy when you do things like that

[ultimate777]

Do you admire Sartre?

This C.S. Lewis quote was something like the gates of hell are locked from the inside.

The Sartre quote from my dim memory was "Hell is other people."
I checked and the quote comes from the play "No Exit'." I've only checked a little of the wikipedia link but its about
three people in a not exactly hellacious room in hell who apprently are compelled to torment each other about the sin each one is most ashamed of. At least once an exit opens but none of them can make themseves leave.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Exit

That has something in common with the C.S. Lewis quote

[neo-x]

Do you admire Sartre?

This C.S. Lewis quote was something like the gates of hell are locked from the inside.

The Sartre quote from my dim memory was "Hell is other people."
I checked and the quote comes from the play "No Exit'." I've only checked a little of the wikipedia link but its about
three people in a not exactly hellacious room in hell who apprently are compelled to torment each other about the sin each one is most ashamed of. At least once an exit opens but none of them can make themseves leave.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Exit

That has something in common with the C.S. Lewis quote

The quote from "No exit" means that its each man for himself, "Hell is other people", means to always blame others for our own faults and problems, to criticize others and not see our own mistakes. Take the nuclear bombing of japan. Most Americans still think that it wasn't their fault they had to drop a bomb and kill millions. Or take Nazi German people who refused to acknowledge that the German people knew what Hitler wanted to do with Jews. Take the garden of Eden, Adam accuses eve, she in turn accuses the serpent.

Its all about shifting blame on others and finding excuses for yourself. So each one is hell for the other, in a figurative way because each one represents the worse for the other.

The quote of C.S Lewis meant, that people who end up in hell, choose it. The door is locked from inside meaning its locked to put God out on purpose.

Infact there may be something which could be related to the Satre quote, Lewis once said that:

"In each of us there is something growing, which will BE hell unless it is nipped in the bud."

AND

"We must picture hell as a state where everyone is perpetually concerned about his own dignity and advancement, where everyone has a grievance, and where everyone lives with the deadly serious passions of envy, self-importance, and resentment."

[ultimate777]

Do you admire Sartre?

This C.S. Lewis quote was something like the gates of hell are locked from the inside.

The Sartre quote from my dim memory was "Hell is other people."
I checked and the quote comes from the play "No Exit'." I've only checked a little of the wikipedia link but its about
three people in a not exactly hellacious room in hell who apprently are compelled to torment each other about the sin each one is most ashamed of. At least once an exit opens but none of them can make themseves leave.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Exit

That has something in common with the C.S. Lewis quote

The quote from "No exit" means that its each man for himself, "Hell is other people", means to always blame others for our own faults and problems, to criticize others and not see our own mistakes. Take the nuclear bombing of japan. Most Americans still think that it wasn't their fault they had to drop a bomb and kill millions. Or take Nazi German people who refused to acknowledge that the German people knew what Hitler wanted to do with Jews. Take the garden of Eden, Adam accuses eve, she in turn accuses the serpent.

Its all about shifting blame on others and finding excuses for yourself. So each one is hell for the other, in a figurative way because each one represents the worse for the other.

The quote of C.S Lewis meant, that people who end up in hell, choose it. The door is locked from inside meaning its locked to put God out on purpose.

Infact there may be something which could be related to the Satre quote, Lewis once said that:

"In each of us there is something growing, which will BE hell unless it is nipped in the bud."

AND

"We must picture hell as a state where everyone is perpetually concerned about his own dignity and advancement, where everyone has a grievance, and where everyone lives with the deadly serious passions of envy, self-importance, and resentment."

Can the inmates unlock the door? If they cannot, inside, outside, what is the difference?

[neo-x]

True, but then Lewis statement is just an ironic statement. Highlighting the fact that those who reject God, reject him with their own free will. Its not God who locks them up, they end up locking themselves. So further lost that they refuse to open up.