JustDucky wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:42 pm
SoCalExile wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:46 am
B. W. wrote:
Ottoman wrote:I am having a hard time reconciling Hebrews 5:9 with justification by faith alone that Paul preached. Does Heb 5:9 teach salvation by works or am I missing something?
Context, there is always a context and continuity that answers question you just pointed out.
Heb 5:9, And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation...
Go back to..
Therefore how do we obey?
Simple trust in what the Lord has done for us from a willing heart to learn by failures how to live responsibly before God and Man...
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 1:9 NKJV
And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation...
Heb 5:9, NASB
So...we must do something other than trust Christ's substitutionary atonement then?
No, those who trust will obey! We can't say we trust God and then not obey him, the two are inseparable.
"Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." (Mt 7:21)
So if you trust Donald Trump will be a good president, does that mean you will obey his command to vote for him? If you don't, how does that affect your faith in him? I don't see that it does.
If you love your wife, does that mean you will always obey her or else you don't really love her? I think you can see how this goes downhill pretty quick.
I guess Peter didn't love Jesus, and David didn't love God either because he disobeyed Him?
Also, Romans 5:19 says that "by the obedience of One, many shall be saved."
BTW Matthew 7:21 is in the context of false teachers. Read the next verse:
7:22 Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonderful works in Your name?
So they thought they were doing God's will, and by doing so, were g2g with God. But:
7:23 And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you who practice iniquity!'"
They didn't have the only righteousness that matters: Christ's, which is gained by faith. Their faith was in their works, not in the mercy of God. Just like the Pharisee of Luk 18:9-14:
18:9 Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
18:10 "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector."
18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed to himself like this, 'God, I thank You that I am not like other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector."
18:12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.'"
18:13 And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me a sinner!'"
18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; because, everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."
But many in the modern church would say that Jesus had it backwards.
God's grace is not cheap; it's free.