Does Kent Hovind believe what he preach?

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Re: Does Kent Hovind believe what he preach?

Postby Kurieuo » Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:20 pm

The biggest Christian con was with YECs aligning their position with thoughts such as sola scriptura, biblical inerrancy, the Word of God, Evangelicalism, etc. Such was a 20th century move largely done in the pulpits, Sunday schools, Christian groups, Christian schools who ignored a great deal of Evangelical scholarship with deeper learning in theology and Biblical knowledge (such as those who were part of the ICBI).

Many Christians were no doubt eager to find answers to modern science questions, dinosaurs and the like. Creationist organisations like AiG and "Dr Dino's" (Kent Hovind) were perhaps really the only Christian "think tanks" in town who had resources.

My general analysis above might be wrong here, but the above seems about right given my own experiences as an Evangelical Christian and what I know.
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Re: Does Kent Hovind believe what he preach?

Postby thatkidakayoungguy » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:39 pm

Kurieuo wrote:The biggest Christian con was with YECs aligning their position with thoughts such as sola scriptura, biblical inerrancy, the Word of God, Evangelicalism, etc. Such was a 20th century move largely done in the pulpits, Sunday schools, Christian groups, Christian schools who ignored a great deal of Evangelical scholarship with deeper learning in theology and Biblical knowledge (such as those who were part of the ICBI).

And an after result was that many are now abandoning the faith, thinking that Christianity is anti-science nonsense. Which it isn't but still.
Remember when fundamentalism simply meant having the 5 main points down pat? Inerrancy and inspiration of Scripture, deity of Jesus, virgin birth of Jesus, the victory over sin Jesus had on the cross, and the resurrection and second coming of Jesus? Now that term has a backwards connotation, what a shame.
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Re: Does Kent Hovind believe what he preach?

Postby Kurieuo » Sat Mar 11, 2017 6:57 am

Another con was with secular Humanists taking advantage of such nonsense and redefining Christian "Fundamentalism" as something akin Islamic Fundamentalism. Foundationally, the doctrine of one set of beliefs lends itself to violence after it's military prophet, whereas "fundamental" doctrine in the other entirely different as you noted.

Etymologically, "fundamentalist" appears to have evolved into a perception of "stupid" beliefs people believe in joined to an often accepted proposition that "religion leads to violence". Theologically, and traditionally, a "fundamentalist" perhaps had no such stigmas. For example, I'm a Fundamentalist Evangelical Christian, however -- what this actually means to me and would portray to others today would no doubt be quite misleading as to who I am and even what I believe.

Again, I might be wrong in my analysis here, but this too seems about right given my own experiences with people, what gets published online, the media and as someone who'd identify as just such a Christian.
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Re: Does Kent Hovind believe what he preach?

Postby thatkidakayoungguy » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:51 am

Kurieuo wrote:Another con was with secular Humanists taking advantage of such nonsense and redefining Christian "Fundamentalism" as something akin Islamic Fundamentalism. Foundationally, the doctrine of one set of beliefs lends itself to violence after it's military prophet, whereas "fundamental" doctrine in the other entirely different as you noted.

Etymologically, "fundamentalist" appears to have evolved into a perception of "stupid" beliefs people believe in joined to an often accepted proposition that "religion leads to violence". Theologically, and traditionally, a "fundamentalist" perhaps had no such stigmas. For example, I'm a Fundamentalist Evangelical Christian, however -- what this actually means to me and would portray to others today would no doubt be quite misleading as to who I am and even what I believe.

Again, I might be wrong in my analysis here, but this too seems about right given my own experiences with people, what gets published online, the media and as someone who'd identify as just such a Christian.

No I agree with you, I've noticed the same. The sad thing is they're partly right: many fundamentalists (WBC for instance) and Christian conservatives (KKK for one) give the rest a bad name.

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Re: Does Kent Hovind believe what he preach?

Postby RickD » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:56 am

thatkidakayoungguy wrote:
Kurieuo wrote:Another con was with secular Humanists taking advantage of such nonsense and redefining Christian "Fundamentalism" as something akin Islamic Fundamentalism. Foundationally, the doctrine of one set of beliefs lends itself to violence after it's military prophet, whereas "fundamental" doctrine in the other entirely different as you noted.

Etymologically, "fundamentalist" appears to have evolved into a perception of "stupid" beliefs people believe in joined to an often accepted proposition that "religion leads to violence". Theologically, and traditionally, a "fundamentalist" perhaps had no such stigmas. For example, I'm a Fundamentalist Evangelical Christian, however -- what this actually means to me and would portray to others today would no doubt be quite misleading as to who I am and even what I believe.

Again, I might be wrong in my analysis here, but this too seems about right given my own experiences with people, what gets published online, the media and as someone who'd identify as just such a Christian.

No I agree with you, I've noticed the same. The sad thing is they're partly right: many fundamentalists (WBC for instance) and Christian conservatives (KKK for one) give the rest a bad name.

The kkk and Westboro Baptist church give the rest of Christians a bad name?

Wouldn't that kinda be like OJ Simpson and Aaron Hernandez giving the rest of the NFL players a bad name?
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Re: Does Kent Hovind believe what he preach?

Postby thatkidakayoungguy » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:34 am

RickD wrote:The kkk and Westboro Baptist church give the rest of Christians a bad name?

Wouldn't that kinda be like OJ Simpson and Aaron Hernandez giving the rest of the NFL players a bad name?

Apparently to many non believers they do.

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Re: Does Kent Hovind believe what he preach?

Postby RickD » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:02 am

And Charles Manson gives the rest of atheists a bad name.
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Re: Does Kent Hovind believe what he preach?

Postby thatkidakayoungguy » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:06 am

RickD wrote:And Charles Manson gives the rest of atheists a bad name.

I would've said Dawkins does, since he helped start the militant atheist movement, whether intentionally or not.

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Re: Does Kent Hovind believe what he preach?

Postby RickD » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:08 am

thatkidakayoungguy wrote:
RickD wrote:And Charles Manson gives the rest of atheists a bad name.

I would've said Dawkins does, since he helped start the militant atheist movement, whether intentionally or not.

And you'd be wrong to generalize like that. Just like it would be wrong to equate millions of Christians with the KKK or WBC.
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Re: Does Kent Hovind believe what he preach?

Postby thatkidakayoungguy » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:12 am

RickD wrote:
thatkidakayoungguy wrote:
RickD wrote:And Charles Manson gives the rest of atheists a bad name.

I would've said Dawkins does, since he helped start the militant atheist movement, whether intentionally or not.

And you'd be wrong to generalize like that. Just like it would be wrong to equate millions of Christians with the KKK or WBC.

You're right, I apologize.

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Re: Does Kent Hovind believe what he preach?

Postby RickD » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:16 am

thatkidakayoungguy wrote:
RickD wrote:
thatkidakayoungguy wrote:
RickD wrote:And Charles Manson gives the rest of atheists a bad name.

I would've said Dawkins does, since he helped start the militant atheist movement, whether intentionally or not.

And you'd be wrong to generalize like that. Just like it would be wrong to equate millions of Christians with the KKK or WBC.

You're right, I apologize.

I think there's a tendency for us Christians to think of atheists as the enemy. Maybe many of us forget that some of us were once atheists. I'm not saying that you believe that, I just think generalizing like that, can perpetuate an us against them mentality. Which isn't good for anyone, imo.
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