RickD wrote:jenna wrote:RickD wrote:jenna wrote:RickD wrote:Please reread the passage of the rich young ruler again, and keep it in its proper context.
i have read it, several times, and I am keeping it in context. Again i ask, do you not think that Christ was speaking for everyone? Do you think He wasnt serious? Why would He say this to one person, and not mean it for everyone. Christ's words are for all of us.
Here's a good article explaining the story of the rich young ruler:
no, we are not saved by works, but by grace. that is true. HOWEVER, God is not going to give that gift to those who do not obey Him. The young ruler was actually not keeping all the commandments, since he put the love of his things above the love of God. in essence, he idolized them first. Christ wanted him to put aside worldly things, and focus on obeying God. Many things make it nearly impossible to keep the commandments, our sinful nature being first and foremost. However, if we can focus on God and put our faith in Him totally, we can receive the gift He has for us. While we may slip up occasionally, we "can do all things through Christ who strengthens us".
I'm not sure how you cannot see the contradiction in what you're saying. On one hand, you said that we're saved by obeying the commandments. And on the other hand you say we are saved by grace. It can't be both. By definition, Grace is unmerited. If we obtain salvation by following the law, then it wouldn't be by grace.
Which one is it? Unmerited grace, or wages earned by works?
think of it this way. just say you had 2 children. they are in college, and you told them both they would receive a gift when they finished their courses. But one of them did not finish, would you still give him the gift? No, because he did not do his part in order to receive it! God is the same. He gives a free gift, but there are qualifiers in order to receive it. He will not give it to those who do not obey Him! why can you not see what I am saying?