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Pope Francis: “Koran And Holy Bible Are The Same"

Postby Stu » Thu Jun 04, 2015 3:04 am

Curious as to what the Roman Catholic members make of the Pope's latest comments. Seems he's in favour of Chrislam now.

Pope Francis To Followers: “Koran And Holy Bible Are The Same”
On Monday the Bishop Of Rome addressed Catholic followers regarding the dire importance of exhibiting religious tolerance. During his hour-long speech, a smiling Pope Francis was quoted telling the Vatican’s guests that the Koran, and the spiritual teachings contained therein, are just as valid as the Holy Bible.

“Jesus Christ, Mohammed, Jehovah, Allah. These are all names employed to describe an entity that is distinctly the same across the world. For centuries, blood has been needlessly shed because of the desire to segregate our faiths. This, however, should be the very concept which unites us as people, as nations, and as a world bound by faith. Together, we can bring about an unprecedented age of peace, all we need to achieve such a state is respect each others beliefs, for we are all children of God regardless of the name we choose to address him by. We can accomplish miraculous things in the world by merging our faiths, and the time for such a movement is now. No longer shall we slaughter our neighbors over differences in reference to their God.”

The pontiff drew harsh criticisms in December after photos of the 78-year-old Catholic leader was released depicting Pope Francis kissing a Koran. The Muslim Holy Book was given to Francis during a meeting with Muslim leaders after a lengthy Muslim prayer held at the Vatican.

St. John Paul II has courted several controversies since being elected as Pope Benedicto XVI’s replacement in 2013. Francis has gone on record to say that homosexuals are not to be judged, Proselytism is nonsense and has endorsed the usage of contraceptive by Catholics.

The Vatican will meet again with Muslim leaders in late February where they plan to talk about further steps that can be taken to spread understanding and awareness of the Islamic religion.
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Re: Pope Francis: “Koran And Holy Bible Are The Same"

Postby RickD » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:04 am

Anyone have a link to the speech, so we can have proper context of what he actually said?
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Re: Pope Francis: “Koran And Holy Bible Are The Same"

Postby PaulSacramento » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:10 am

That was probably one of the dumbest things I have ever read coming from a Pope.
First off, Mohammed is NOT a deity, he was simply a prophet, so to suggest that his is one of the "all names employed to describe an entity that is distinctly the same across the world", is not only wrong, but stupid and obviously shows he has not read to Koran or knows anything about Islam.

Second, the Koran has passages that condone, even recommend, killing infidels AND has passages that, to put it mildly, put Christ in a bad light.
To say they are valid is, well, shocking to say the least.

Seems that this Pope is falling into the danger of believing and not understanding the very real dangers of "the ends justify the means".

He wants peace and tolerance but does not seem to grasp the very real and obvious fact that ALL parties must want peace and tolerance.

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Re: Pope Francis: “Koran And Holy Bible Are The Same"

Postby Byblos » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:32 am

PaulSacramento wrote:That was probably one of the dumbest things I have ever read coming from a Pope.
First off, Mohammed is NOT a deity, he was simply a prophet, so to suggest that his is one of the "all names employed to describe an entity that is distinctly the same across the world", is not only wrong, but stupid and obviously shows he has not read to Koran or knows anything about Islam.

Second, the Koran has passages that condone, even recommend, killing infidels AND has passages that, to put it mildly, put Christ in a bad light.
To say they are valid is, well, shocking to say the least.

Seems that this Pope is falling into the danger of believing and not understanding the very real dangers of "the ends justify the means".

He wants peace and tolerance but does not seem to grasp the very real and obvious fact that ALL parties must want peace and tolerance.


Paul haven't you learned your lesson yet? :shakehead:

The only place this so-called article is on the National Report, which is a satire website with the pictures of Ted Cruze and Sarah Palin on the front page. I only have to quote their disclaimer:

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Re: Pope Francis: “Koran And Holy Bible Are The Same"

Postby RickD » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:36 am

Thanks Byblos.

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Re: Pope Francis: “Koran And Holy Bible Are The Same"

Postby Stu » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:58 am

Stupid National Report :evil:
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Re: Pope Francis: “Koran And Holy Bible Are The Same"

Postby PaulSacramento » Thu Jun 04, 2015 7:06 am

You'd think I would know better by now...
Sheesh !!
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Re: Pope Francis: “Koran And Holy Bible Are The Same"

Postby RickD » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:56 am

PaulSacramento wrote:You'd think I would know better by now...
Sheesh !!
* walks away, kicks can, slaps baby and shaves puppy*

With all your "Catholic bashing", the only fair thing for you to do would be to convert to Catholicism. It's the least you could do to make it up to them. :samen:
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Re: Pope Francis: “Koran And Holy Bible Are The Same"

Postby PaulSacramento » Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:34 pm

RickD wrote:
PaulSacramento wrote:You'd think I would know better by now...
Sheesh !!
* walks away, kicks can, slaps baby and shaves puppy*

With all your "Catholic bashing", the only fair thing for you to do would be to convert to Catholicism. It's the least you could do to make it up to them. :samen:


You just want me to punish them by joining them.
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Re: Pope Francis: “Koran And Holy Bible Are The Same"

Postby RickD » Thu Jun 04, 2015 12:37 pm

PaulSacramento wrote:
RickD wrote:
PaulSacramento wrote:You'd think I would know better by now...
Sheesh !!
* walks away, kicks can, slaps baby and shaves puppy*

With all your "Catholic bashing", the only fair thing for you to do would be to convert to Catholicism. It's the least you could do to make it up to them. :samen:


You just want me to punish them by joining them.
:horseman:

Darn! You caught on to my plan. :twisted: :pound:
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Re: Pope Francis: “Koran And Holy Bible Are The Same"

Postby thatkidakayoungguy » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:31 pm

Stu wrote:Curious as to what the Roman Catholic members make of the Pope's latest comments. Seems he's in favour of Chrislam now.

Pope Francis To Followers: “Koran And Holy Bible Are The Same”
On Monday the Bishop Of Rome addressed Catholic followers regarding the dire importance of exhibiting religious tolerance. During his hour-long speech, a smiling Pope Francis was quoted telling the Vatican’s guests that the Koran, and the spiritual teachings contained therein, are just as valid as the Holy Bible.

“Jesus Christ, Mohammed, Jehovah, Allah. These are all names employed to describe an entity that is distinctly the same across the world. For centuries, blood has been needlessly shed because of the desire to segregate our faiths. This, however, should be the very concept which unites us as people, as nations, and as a world bound by faith. Together, we can bring about an unprecedented age of peace, all we need to achieve such a state is respect each others beliefs, for we are all children of God regardless of the name we choose to address him by. We can accomplish miraculous things in the world by merging our faiths, and the time for such a movement is now. No longer shall we slaughter our neighbors over differences in reference to their God.”

The pontiff drew harsh criticisms in December after photos of the 78-year-old Catholic leader was released depicting Pope Francis kissing a Koran. The Muslim Holy Book was given to Francis during a meeting with Muslim leaders after a lengthy Muslim prayer held at the Vatican.

St. John Paul II has courted several controversies since being elected as Pope Benedicto XVI’s replacement in 2013. Francis has gone on record to say that homosexuals are not to be judged, Proselytism is nonsense and has endorsed the usage of contraceptive by Catholics.

The Vatican will meet again with Muslim leaders in late February where they plan to talk about further steps that can be taken to spread understanding and awareness of the Islamic religion.

Mohammed was and isn't even thought to be God incarnate or an avatar. Just a prophet.
Also my question fits in well with this: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=41716#p220834

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Re: Pope Francis: “Koran And Holy Bible Are The Same"

Postby Ecclesiastes12 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:33 pm

Just to let you know, this was proven to be a hoax. http://www.snopes.com/religious-replicates/


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