abelcainsbrother wrote:Audacity wrote:Kurieuo wrote:Audacity wrote:Without alluding to evolution . . . . . . .in any way.
But, everyone believes in evolution. Yes, even YECs.
What's the point of this game?
Not that creationist believe in evolution, but almost invariably their case for creationism involves bringing in evolution or its principles, the presumption being that if they can disprove evolution then creationism wins by default. Check out any creationist web page that makes an argument for creationism and see how long it takes before it alludes to evolution or its principles.
Except for Gap Creationism.Gap Theory creationism makes evolution wrong and would say alot of the evidence evolution uses in science points to a much,much more believable theory than evolution based on alot of the same evidence in the earth.
We would say the evidence in noway is evidence life evolves but is instead evidence of a former world that was on this earth with totally different kinds of life in it than this world we live in now has and there was a Gap inbetween the former world and this world we now live in and the evidence in the earth confirms there was a former world that perished before God made this world we now live in on the earth.
Same evidence,different theory. But also these ancient mysterious places on the earth around the earth both on the land and some now at the bottom of the ocean,these also confirm a former world did indeed exist that perished just like the bible tells us.
My challenge to creationism/creationists was not aimed at anything other than the focus of evolution (biological evolution): the manner by which we have come to have millions of species of life on earth. Want to talk about the geological evolution of the earth, or the evolution of the universe, or something else, then I'm not interested. So, how does gap creationism go about establishing its claim that all the species we have on earth were put here individually by god?