zacchaeus wrote:It isnt really a thought process too difficult to suppose that God created water before He created springs and waterfalls, that He created electrons before He created sources of electricity, and that He created photons before He created light sources. If He had created the Sun before He created photons, what would it have emitted? Creating a light source before He created light would be more paradoxical than the reverse. I get my water out of a faucet in the kitchen, but I don't consider it some bizarre paradox that water existed before kitchen faucets were invented, or light before the bulb, or light switch in my kitchen, or electricity.
I believe this may have been in response to me?
Interesting, and I think it's what Jac was also trying to highlight in the Sun not being necessary for light.
BUT, the question still remains: which day did God separate light from darkness: Day 1 (Gen 1:4), or Day 4 (Gen 1:18)
For what it's worth, strictly speaking, I'm neither 24-hour nor Day-Age when it comes to yom
. I disagree with many modern YEC or OEC interpretations which specifically try to make time the focus of the writings when it is very unlikely the writer cared much at all about time.
Rather, I think day should just be understood as being all that we generally experience a day to be
-- to be an ordinary day, dawn of morning, Sun out in the day and then dusk. And indeed, the "evening and morning" language in Genesis 1 supports this. This is for all days: days 1 through to day 6 -- not just days 4 to day 6 when most YECs interpret the Sun as existing.
So then, a YEC can opt for Sun being created in the beginning, and Day 4 a recap plus Earth's atmosphere transforming from translucent (thick) to transparent (thin) allowing the stars in the sky to be seen, and the Sun being revealed as something more than the displaced light we see on a very cloudy or overcast day. Such a position is much stronger than a YEC position which says the Sun was created on Day 4.
Or, one can see the significance for Moses is in the 6-1 structure and Sabbatical theology -- the Sabbath, which was a holy seventh day set aside to pay respect to the Lord God as creator of the heavens and the Earth. (Exodus 20:11) The Sabbath, a symbol of God's rest which God only allows some people to enter. (cf. Gen 2:3 and Psalm 95:11) The Sabbath, a foreshadowing of our being freed from our works when entering into God's rest. (Hebrews 4:9-11) The Sabbath, the kernel of which probably encapsulates more theology in Scripture than any other word or idea, for it includes creation, God, the Law and works, Grace and forgiveness, the Christ, soteriology and the like. Ultimately, the Sabbath represents acknowledgement and respect for God as the Creator of all above whom there is none higher.