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Did anyone ever notice that the most oil in the world is found in the Middle East, and most especially the Persian Gulf, and area regarded by many Christians as a possible place for the origin of life, or the Garden of Eden? Possible relationship there, or just a coincidence?
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coincidence i would say, oil is not something that God just pumped into earth, it is the mixed result of fossilized remains, organic, and mineral compounds, a lot of things that the planet has in its billion of years recycled in a way. gelogical location matter as well as other factors for the presence of oil. just google it up
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Yeah, but if oil is basically compressed remains of living things, and if life originated in the middle east, I just thought there might be a connection. Or, it could just be my wild imagination once again.
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kmr wrote:Did anyone ever notice that the most oil in the world is found in the Middle East, and most especially the Persian Gulf, and area regarded by many Christians as a possible place for the origin of life, or the Garden of Eden? Possible relationship there, or just a coincidence?
Recently great quantities of oil have been found in the USA, such at the USA now has stocks of oil approaching that of Saudi Arabia. Also, there are recent discoveries of natural gas in rocks, and how to get at it, such that the USA is now a net exporter of natural gas, these stocks are huge, and are also in other countries, for instance Poland.

There is nothing in the bible saying that the Garden of Eden is the the place for the origin of life, only the origin of human life.

It is quite possible that all that oil is not a coincidence, however, God may have arrainged for it to be there (and esewhere) as part of his specific plan. He did not consult me on that plan :shakehead: , however (for which you can be extremely gratefull :shock: ), so I cannot say exactly what Gods plan is for his specific distribution of natural reasources and the effect of that distribution on human beings and their relations to each other. I just have the feeling that there is one...
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Yeah, but if oil is basically compressed remains of living things, and if life originated in the middle east, I just thought there might be a connection. Or, it could just be my wild imagination once again.
Life didn't originate in Middle east, don't forget the dinosaurs and the millions of living creatures that are now extinct, dinosaurs have even been found in Antarctica. so life was pretty much around everywhere also that back then the continents were not in the place and shape they are today.
It would be a blessing if they missed the cairns and got lost on the way back. Or if
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Death by starvation is a terrible thing, Goodsir, continued Stanley.
And with that we went below to the flame-flickering Darkness of the lower deck
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kmr wrote:Did anyone ever notice that the most oil in the world is found in the Middle East, and most especially the Persian Gulf, and area regarded by many Christians as a possible place for the origin of life, or the Garden of Eden? Possible relationship there, or just a coincidence?
It is not entirely accurate to say that most oil in the world is found in the Middle East. While they remain the largest producers, holding also the highest oil reserves, a couple things must be considered:

1) Petroleum resources are more than just crude oil (coal, gas, etc. must be included). Russia has the largest overall reserves, and has the potential to produce far more oil and gas.

2) The Middle East is important *today* regarding oil because many other countries have already produced most of their oil resources (like the United States, who once had a *lot* more oil in the ground).

3) Oil reserves for any location depend more on geological preservation than geological production. The Middle East has some of the largest oil fields because the specific geology of the region (a very broad anticline with an evaporite seal) allowed for the preservation of oil in mass quantities. In other locations, most of the oil was lost over geologic time when the hydrocarbon seals were weathered away.

Oil is primarily the byproduct of buried algae and bacteria living in the oceans or large lakes (like the Black Sea). There is some contribution from land plant material, but this results in more 'gas-rich' fields, or coal. Before there was a garden, there was an ocean.

Hope that helps. I also wrote about oil in general here: http://questioninganswersingenesis.blog ... f-oil.html
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Thanks!
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Actually, the USA has the worlds largest supply of fossile feul, as seen here http://www.energytribune.com/articles.c ... -Resources . The USA's supply is larger than "Saudi Arabia (3rd), China (4th) and Canada (6th) combined". The second largest is Russia. No one has ever suggested that either of the two top energy countries was ever the home of the garden of eden :shakehead: . This is not even counting the recent oild discoveries in the USA which make our more easily recoverable oil reserves very close to that of saudi Arabia.

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While the US is often depicted as having only a tiny minority of the world’s oil reserves at around 28 billion barrels (based on the somewhat misleading figure of ‘proven reserves’) according to the CRS in reality it has around 163 billion barrels. As Inhofe’s EPW press release comments, “That’s enough oil to maintain America’s current rates of production and replace imports from the Persian Gulf for more than 50 years”. Next up, there’s coal. The CRS report reveals America’s reserves of coal are unsurpassed, accounting for over 28 percent of the world’s coal. Much of it is high quality too. The CRS estimates US recoverable coal reserves at around 262 billion tons (not including further massive, difficult to access, Alaskan reserves). Given the US consumes around 1.2 billion tons a year, that’s a couple of centuries of coal use, at least.

In 2009 the CRS upped its 2006 estimate of America’s enormous natural gas deposits by 25 percent to around 2,047 trillion cubic feet, a conservative figure given the expanding shale gas revolution. At current rates of use that’s enough for around 100 years. Then there is still the, as yet largely publicly untold, story of methane hydrates to consider, a resource which the CRS reports alludes to as “immense...possibly exceeding the combined energy content of all other known fossil fuels.” According to the Inhofe’s EPW, “For perspective, if just 3 percent of this resource can be commercialized ... at current rates of consumption, that level of supply would be enough to provide America’s natural gas for more than 400 years.”
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