thatkidakayoungguy wrote:Thing is wouldn't it be found before then? It was supposed to be in the tomb of Jesus. I'm starting to think it's fake, but undecided.
There are a few people who don't think Jesus existed at all, but most people, even atheists, think there is enough evidence, however circumstantial, to support the belief that Jesus did exist, and did die, and therefore, reasonably, was covered with a shroud (some people think that Jesus didn't die, but was covered with a shroud anyway). So far so good. But is the Shroud of Turin the same shroud that covered the body of Jesus, or a representation of it, made much later in time? These are the sort of questions you might ask in order to help decide:
1) Do we know anything about 1st century Jewish shrouds and burial practices, and if we do, how do they compare with the Shroud today?
2) Does anybody incontestably identify the Shroud earlier than 1350, by describing or depicting characteristics that must apply to the Shroud of Turin and not any other relic?
So far, so impartial, but, as you will already know, I myself do not find the answers to these questions sufficient to demonstrate the authenticity of the Shroud, while many others do. I shall be happy to explain why if you want, and no doubt others will explain the opposite point of view. However, I think I should warn you that many people are not too interested in the answers, as their Faith is all they need to justify their opinion. That's fine, but then they nearly always try to justify their faith, and then their chief evidence is based on arguments from ignorance, to the effect that because we don't know something, therefore their opinion must be correct. It hasn't been reproduced, therefore it's authentic, or it isn't mentioned in the bible, therefore it's medieval, or we don't know how it got to Lirey, therefore it's authentic, or we don't know how a dead body can produce an image, therefore it's medieval. Needless to say, not knowing something is not evidence for anything, and I'm sure you will not fall into such a fallacy.