The truth about the real creator of the universe

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The truth about the real creator of the universe

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We men can create with our logic and power NOTHING , only make something out of already existing .

THAT shows , that the universe can ONLY have been created by an unimaginable superior logic and power .

Who has really crasped that , knows that the real creator of the universe really exists !

And he should also know , what we men have to do here , a n d the most important , he is also able to learn to do it :

to learn to live together in real harmony with his creation ( that is the task of the mankind here ) .


And what about the religions ? They are useless and harmful , of course !
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Welcome, Manden!

Did I read you correctly - that you assert a Creator exists? Yet, you list yourself as a non-Christian.
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manden wrote:We men can create with our logic and power NOTHING , only make something out of already existing .

THAT shows , that the universe can ONLY have been created by an unimaginable superior logic and power .

Who has really crasped that , knows that the real creator of the universe really exists !

And he should also know , what we men have to do here , a n d the most important , he is also able to learn to do it :

to learn to live together in real harmony with his creation ( that is the task of the mankind here ) .


And what about the religions ? They are useless and harmful , of course !
Why do I feel like they are about to make a case for the flying spaghetti monster :econfused:

Kidding!, I think? :P
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Thank you , Philip .

Of course , I know that the real creator of the universe exists - I have recognized it at the universe (took about 10 years) .
I have no religion (till about 30 years Christian) , because all religions are wrong .
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Nessa , the real truth seems to be simple , but to understand that really , is incredibly difficult !

And to learn to live in real harmony with the creation - men and nature - is only possible more than a little when

we (the mankind) are able to recognize at the universe that the real creator of the universe really exists .

And this mankind - is very far from .
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manden wrote:Thank you , Philip .

Of course , I know that the real creator of the universe exists - I have recognized it at the universe (took about 10 years) .
I have no religion (till about 30 years Christian) , because all religions are wrong .
This post here is a bit incoherent...
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PaulSacramento wrote:
manden wrote:Thank you , Philip .

Of course , I know that the real creator of the universe exists - I have recognized it at the universe (took about 10 years) .
I have no religion (till about 30 years Christian) , because all religions are wrong .
This post here is a bit incoherent...
a bit?

Just a thought...

manden? Have you heard of Eckhart Tolle?
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manden wrote:We men can create with our logic and power NOTHING , only make something out of already existing .

THAT shows , that the universe can ONLY have been created by an unimaginable superior logic and power .

Who has really crasped that , knows that the real creator of the universe really exists !

And he should also know , what we men have to do here , a n d the most important , he is also able to learn to do it :

to learn to live together in real harmony with his creation ( that is the task of the mankind here ) .


And what about the religions ? They are useless and harmful , of course !

Seems to me you've finally gotten over the hump to realize the universe was created and has a creator but now you need to find the real true creator God.
Hebrews 12:2-3 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,despising the shame,and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
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manden wrote:Thank you , Philip .

Of course , I know that the real creator of the universe exists - I have recognized it at the universe (took about 10 years) .
I have no religion (till about 30 years Christian) , because all religions are wrong .
Manden,

«Christianity» isn't a religion. A religion is a formalized (or institutionalized) way of worshipping a deity or deities. Or, a religion may also be some narrative about existence (as in forms of atheism & forms of Buddhism).

While there are religions that promote Christianity, Christianity is something else. So, if Jesus Christ is your God, you are a Christian. If your god is someone or something else, you are an idiot idolater.

Get it?

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Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:
manden wrote:Thank you , Philip .

Of course , I know that the real creator of the universe exists - I have recognized it at the universe (took about 10 years) .
I have no religion (till about 30 years Christian) , because all religions are wrong .
Manden,

«Christianity» isn't a religion. A religion is a formalized (or institutionalized) way of worshipping a deity or deities. Or, a religion may also be some narrative about existence (as in forms of atheism & forms of Buddhism).

While there are religions that promote Christianity, Christianity is something else. So, if Jesus Christ is your God, you are a Christian. If your god is someone or something else, you are an idiot idolater.

Get it?

:D
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2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
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Dear forists ,

You don't want to understand me . I experience that since many years .
The mankind is in a catastrophal state - you must only be able to open your eyes !
We have thousands of manmade religions with thousands of manmade Gods .
But almost all people are NOT really interested in any God . Only the crazy one , in the moment the Islamists .

WE - the mankind - must try to recognize that the TRUE God ( no religion ) really exists - the real creator of the universe
at his creation - the universe !
That is the ONLY way for the mankind .
But it is incredibly difficult for this very ill mankind .

I hope somebody can understand me a little , more I think is not possible in the moment .
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manden wrote:Dear forists ,

You don't want to understand me . I experience that since many years .
The mankind is in a catastrophal state - you must only be able to open your eyes !
We have thousands of manmade religions with thousands of manmade Gods .
But almost all people are NOT really interested in any God . Only the crazy one , in the moment the Islamists .
What about Christ?
manden wrote:WE - the mankind - must try to recognize that the TRUE God ( no religion ) really exists - the real creator of the universe
at his creation - the universe !
The universe is the creator of the universe?
That is the ONLY way for the mankind .
But it is incredibly difficult for this very ill mankind .

I hope somebody can understand me a little , more I think is not possible in the moment .[/quote]

I am trying to understand you manden, really I am.

So are you saying Christ isn`t God?
(by the way, I agree that religion is man made)
And that the universe created itself? That the universe is itself God?
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Storyteller ,
Christ is not important , also not any religion .
The creator of the universe ( that is the TRUE God ) created the universe (everything) .
It is possible - but immensely diffcult for this ill mankind - to recognize at the universe (the way is descibed in the theme) that the real creator of the universe really exists .
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manden wrote:Storyteller ,
Christ is not important , also not any religion .
The creator of the universe ( that is the TRUE God ) created the universe (everything) .
It is possible - but immensely diffcult for this ill mankind - to recognize at the universe (the way is descibed in the theme) that the real creator of the universe really exists .
Christ is not important? y:O2
No, He is not important, He`s VITAL. He is God.

Recognising the creator of the universe is simple compared to trying to understand your posts. I really am trying to understand where you`re coming from but I can`t.
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Storyteller ,

perhaps some day you find a little truth . I have proved the religions many years with reason and logic . Before about 30 years
evangelic . Result : all religions are manmade with manmade Gods - I have found the TRUE God , the real creator of the
universe .
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