Resurrection of jesus christ

[perplexedsoul]

hi,
Let me ask you few of my doubts. How come resurrection and assumption into heaven is possible. We know there is no oxygen after leaving the atmosphere. How come Jesus travelled through space and reached a place called heaven ?? Distance to the nearest star is 4•25 Light yrs. Heaven is known to be a place situated out of the universe. Is it possible to travel through dark matter and star dust. Same case with mary. Possible chances are both of them are fictional characters as they left no evidence on earth other than bible. No hostorical proof is there. But personally i beliece in the Existence of jesus as a deity becase i felt his presence.

[1over137]

Maybe Jesus went to extra dimension

And welcome to the forum.

[Storyteller]

Outside of our physical universe would be different.
As for no historical proof? What about the shroud?

Welcome from me too

[abelcainsbrother]

You mentioned dark matter. Could you tell me how this was in the bible thousands of years ago and long before science discovered it?Isaiah 50:3" I clothe the heavens with blackness,and I make sackcloth their covering." Dark Matter was known about and it was in the bible the whole time,long before science knew about it.

[abelcainsbrother]

Oh!You mentioned star dust also.Don't you remember it tells us in Genesis God picked up dust from the ground and formed man?Do you believe this was star dust?

[EssentialSacrifice]

OK then, well... wait......

welcome to the forum

[perplexedsoul]

If we believe bible is a book of truth, we go and find proof from some 'words'. We can find such proof from comics too. But the question is about, tje reality. There is no proof for moving into another dimension, as all dimensions together makes an existence

[perplexedsoul]

there is no proof for shroud too.It can be of any man

[Silvertusk]

there is no proof for shroud too.It can be of any man

Umm I suggest you might want to read this thread http://discussions.godandscience.org/vi ... ?f=6&t=225

And then come back and request that this post be deleted.

Warning - It is a long one but worth the read. All credit goes to Bippy our resident Shroud expert. I will try and hold him back from ripping into you until you have read some of it. Although no promises.

[perplexedsoul]

Sorry, lets keep the thread alive. Its about resurrection and assumption into heaven. Not about of historical proof. Assumption of both Mary and Jesus into heaven.

[Nicki]

'With God, everything is possible.' God can do anything and sometimes he does the miraculous. Things don't usually appear out of nowhere as when the universe came into being; people don't usually walk on water; disabled people don't usually instantly get healed. But God would not be much of a God to me if he couldn't make these things, as well as Jesus rising from the dead and returning to heaven, happen when he chose. Jesus had a glorified body when he rose which probably had no need of oxygen or anything else - he could eat food but maybe he didn't need to.

Edit - did Mary go straight to heaven as well? Don't remember anything about that.

[Silvertusk]

'With God, everything is possible.' God can do anything and sometimes he does the miraculous. Things don't usually appear out of nowhere as when the universe came into being; people don't usually walk on water; disabled people don't usually instantly get healed. But God would not be much of a God to me if he couldn't make these things, as well as Jesus rising from the dead and returning to heaven, happen when he chose. Jesus had a glorified body when he rose which probably had no need of oxygen or anything else - he could eat food but maybe he didn't need to.

Edit - did Mary go straight to heaven as well? Don't remember anything about that.

The Mary going to heaven is a Catholic thing.

[Storyteller]

Sorry, lets keep the thread alive. Its about resurrection and assumption into heaven. Not about of historical proof. Assumption of both Mary and Jesus into heaven.

But you mentioned the historical proof!

So, what exactly are you asking? Do we believe Jesus was resurrected and ascended into Heaven? And Mary?

Yes. In a word.

Jesus, absolutely, without a doubt. (And you really should read the shroud thread, it cannot, and is not, just of any man!)
Mary, I`m not sure but I believe she did. I have no proof for that, I am totally open to correction but it is what I believe, at least for now. (And it is a Catholic thing)

[abelcainsbrother]

If we believe bible is a book of truth, we go and find proof from some 'words'. We can find such proof from comics too. But the question is about, tje reality. There is no proof for moving into another dimension, as all dimensions together makes an existence

First off,what would make you believe that Almighty God could not move into another dimension?God could easily do that so I don't see how you are being realistic thinking like you do.Not believing in God does not change anything.

But also reality is everything that comes into being has a cause and God is a cause but if you reject God? Then all you have is a cause problem that science cannot help you with.If you have decided no God exists?Then no amount of evidence would change your mind and yet you still have no substance behind what you believe is reality.

[perplexedsoul]

Everyone use the word 'dimension', They play with that word. What exactly meant by dimension ?? And where is the resurrected jesus christ ?? Why he is not coming to the world and proove that he exist. Why he is not coming infront of a video camera and let himself recorded ???