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Shroud of turin has made the top 10 most searched keywords on yahoo today.

Here is the top article in which is shows teh video of Doctor Phillips lecturing about the shroud. Our resident shroud private eye DRDS found this video long before though. Again good work DRDS :mrgreen:
http://www.webpronews.com/shroud-of-tur ... ng-2014-04

Shroud Of Turin Research Has One Doctor Convinced It’s The Real Thing
The Shroud of Turin is one of the most controversial artifacts to have ever been found. The piece of cloth depicts a man’s face, hands and legs that many claim to be the body of Jesus Christ. For some, it’s proof that Jesus lived, died and was resurrected. For others, it’s a dirty piece of cloth that people put too much importance on. While these two sides argue, science continues to search for the truth with one scientist now claiming it’s the real deal.

The Tampa Tribune reports that Clearwater Beach resident Dr. Wayne Phillips is now convinced that the Shroud of Turin depicts the face of Jesus Christ. While Dr. Phillips is a Catholic, he says that his conclusion comes from hard science instead of faith. To illustrate this, he travels the country giving lectures on the science that proves the shroud is real.

So, what is some of the science that Dr. Phillips cites to prove the shroud is real? For starters, he says the carbon dating method used in 1988 that pegged the shroud’s age at 600 years has been refuted time and time again. He also points to research conducted by Shroud of Turin Research Project in 1978 that proved it’s not a painting. Perhaps the most compelling evidence for the shroud and the resurrection is that research has shown the body under the shroud to have dematerialized. In other words, whoever was buried under the shroud wasn’t moved, but rather simply vanished.

If you want to know more, you can watch one of the talks Phillips gave at his alma mater:

Dr. Phillips isn’t the only academic putting a lot of time into studying the shroud. The Richmond Times Dispatch did a feature story on the local Shroud of Turin Center in Richmond, Virginia. The research center and museum has been a part of the city’s Mary Mother of the Church Abbey since 1997 and has sought to educate the public on the shroud and it’s importance. It’s just one of many shroud centers in the United States. You can see a full list of centers here.

While visiting a center can give you all the information you need on the shroud itself, it still can’t replicate seeing the real thing. For that, you’ll have to travel to Turin, Italy where the shroud is displayed to the public every few years. The last showing was in 2010 while the next will be in 2015. Many U.S.-based shroud centers hold pilgrimages to Turin when the shroud is going to be displayed. The faithful and the curious may want to go with them if they have any desire to see it.



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Hey guys, I recently came across quite a few new Shroud links. Here are some videos I found. The first one talks about how there can't be any paint on the Shroud...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K54PaPcA9U

Here is a three part discussion with Barrie Schwortz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obN7klGeQms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLuZlt4i9UI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fkm_H3whh4


This is from a radio show Hagman and Hagman with Shroud expert Rus Breault:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aXfMP0zlxk

Another presentation by Barrie Schwortz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKWJ_yzkgGI

Here is a Shroud presentation that looks like was done last weekend from Brooke Highland Community Church by Dave Glander

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cATrbQWXp3Q

And here is another presentation from that one guy from Jesuit university:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14y_VIJ2ZbM

Have fun guys!!!!
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DRDS wrote:Hey guys, I recently came across quite a few new Shroud links. Here are some videos I found. The first one talks about how there can't be any paint on the Shroud...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K54PaPcA9U

Here is a three part discussion with Barrie Schwortz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obN7klGeQms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLuZlt4i9UI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fkm_H3whh4


This is from a radio show Hagman and Hagman with Shroud expert Rus Breault:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aXfMP0zlxk

Another presentation by Barrie Schwortz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKWJ_yzkgGI

Here is a Shroud presentation that looks like was done last weekend from Brooke Highland Community Church by Dave Glander

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cATrbQWXp3Q

And here is another presentation from that one guy from Jesuit university:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14y_VIJ2ZbM

Have fun guys!!!!
Wow, good job bro you really worked overtime for these links , im gonna have some nice videos to watch this weekend .
Great job again DRDS :mrgreen:
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And here is another "new" shroud video....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOsKjqvNlpY
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Here is a new link on the Shroud, it's a coast to coast am radio show that features discussion on the Shroud. It was done on April 13th of this year. GB.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlHHYd9zx7o
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Here is another new presentation about the Shroud featuring Rus Breault and Gary Stearman of Prophecy in the News.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTGxb8Ga_W0
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DRDS wrote:Here is another new presentation about the Shroud featuring Rus Breault and Gary Stearman of Prophecy in the News.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTGxb8Ga_W0
Nice one bro

Here is a fascinating study paper on the shroud image as related to nuclear and gamma radiation

NUCLEAR MEDICINE AND ITS RELEVANCE
TO THE SHROUD OF TURIN August D. Accetta MD, Kenneth Lyons MD, John Jackson PhD

I will post the hypothesis and introduction and leave the rest for you guys to read .

http://www.shroud.com/pdfs/accett2.pdf


Hypothesis: If indeed a corpse created the image we see on the Shroud, then the source for the energy received by the cloth may be from the molecular bond energy and/or nuclear forces within the body in some way interacting with the cloth. The closest practical tool we have to study this today is nuclear medicine.
Keywords: STURP: Shroud of Turin Research Project, Tc-99m MDP: Technesium-99 metastable methylene diphosphate, V-P-8: Vertical projection photodensitometer.


Introduction: The Turin Shroud bears an image of an apparent crucified man, chemically the result of some dehydrative, oxidative, and subsequent carbonyl conjugative process of cellulose, the origin of which is heretofore enigmatic.1 Many properties of the Shroud are however under- stood quite well. For example, it is clearly understood through the work of STURP and others that the Shroud did in fact wrap someone at some point in time and that it is not the product of some medieval artist.2
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And here is a new interview about the Shroud with Pastor Marvin Miles interviews Dr. William Guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zlu9dGAbR7I
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This interview with Marvin Miles and William Guy is really really good, I just listened to it and I learned a few new things that I haven't learned previously. It's very good and I highly recommend it.
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Here is a 3 part interview of Barrie Schwortz on the Shroud from Feb. 9th of this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh1I2IJTJik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1behICGgMs4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXpgaDqQj54
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DRDS wrote:Here is a 3 part interview of Barrie Schwortz on the Shroud from Feb. 9th of this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh1I2IJTJik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1behICGgMs4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXpgaDqQj54
Thanks again DRDS, you are the shroud archive guy :)
Great interview with William guy :)
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DRDS wrote:Here is a 3 part interview of Barrie Schwortz on the Shroud from Feb. 9th of this year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh1I2IJTJik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1behICGgMs4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXpgaDqQj54
Guys, the first video link is extremely important because right off the bat, Barrie Schwortz demolishes the recent theory that an earthquake released radiation that caused that image to be formed.He didn't just debunk it but he completely obliterates it. Schwortz has done more for shroud research then most others have, but like I said the earthquake radiation theory has been put to rest by him
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Thanks bips, interesting links.
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Mastermind wrote:I'm not even sure if it's real, a fabrication or a replica of the original.
Did anyone mention that the wrapping of Christ's body came in two pieces? And that the shroud is one piece?
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