Kanye West's Church Services

This area is for friendly discussions only. Post in a more relaxed setting without fear of being attacked. No sensitive topics allowed and strictly no debating!
User avatar
Philip
Board Moderator
Posts: 8319
Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:45 pm
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Day-Age
Location: Betwixt the Sea and the Mountains
Has liked: 391 times
Been liked: 622 times

Kanye West's Church Services

#1

Post by Philip » Wed Jul 24, 2019 8:57 am

I am very cynical about Kanye West's church - but here is an interesting article about what it's ultimate message is about:

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/c ... vice-jesus

A pastor, Rich Wilkinson, recently preaching at the church, made the following statements in the service:

“If you’re new to Sunday Service, we just want to let you know we’re so glad you’re here," Wilkerson said atop a boulder in the 11-minute video he posted on Instagram. "You are welcome to be here, but you should probably know that this is not a concert, this is not a performance, but rather an old-fashioned worship service of Jesus Christ.

He read, in part: "Jesus answered, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'"

And recently, Wilkinson responded to criticism that Jesus being the only way is a wrongful and exclusive belief:

"I would ask is He being exclusive or is He just being specific?" the celebrity pastor said, offering an example that if someone wanted to get to his home in Miami from Key West they would need to take I-95.

So, just maybe, even in Hollyweird Land, there is hope that some people might glimpse Christ!
These users liked this post by Philip:
Kurieuo (Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:49 pm)

User avatar
RickD
Board Moderator
Posts: 21333
Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:59 am
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Day-Age
Location: Kitchen
Has liked: 199 times
Been liked: 1063 times

Re: Kanye West's Church Services

#2

Post by RickD » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:28 am

Who is Kayne West?
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

Kenny wrote:
"You don’t need faith, logic, reason, proof, or anything else to be atheist, all you need to do is reject what someone told you."



St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony

User avatar
Philip
Board Moderator
Posts: 8319
Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:45 pm
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Day-Age
Location: Betwixt the Sea and the Mountains
Has liked: 391 times
Been liked: 622 times

Re: Kanye West's Church Services

#3

Post by Philip » Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:26 am

Who is Kayne West?
Google is your friend!

User avatar
RickD
Board Moderator
Posts: 21333
Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:59 am
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Day-Age
Location: Kitchen
Has liked: 199 times
Been liked: 1063 times

Re: Kanye West's Church Services

#4

Post by RickD » Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:08 pm

Philip wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 11:26 am
Who is Kayne West?
Google is your friend!
I have no friends.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

Kenny wrote:
"You don’t need faith, logic, reason, proof, or anything else to be atheist, all you need to do is reject what someone told you."



St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony

User avatar
Philip
Board Moderator
Posts: 8319
Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:45 pm
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Day-Age
Location: Betwixt the Sea and the Mountains
Has liked: 391 times
Been liked: 622 times

Re: Kanye West's Church Services

#5

Post by Philip » Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:01 pm

Rick: I have no friends.
Yes you DO!!!

User avatar
RickD
Board Moderator
Posts: 21333
Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:59 am
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Day-Age
Location: Kitchen
Has liked: 199 times
Been liked: 1063 times

Re: Kanye West's Church Services

#6

Post by RickD » Wed Jul 24, 2019 5:25 pm

Philip wrote:
Wed Jul 24, 2019 3:01 pm
Rick: I have no friends.
Yes you DO!!!
Im sorry. What I meant to say, was, "With friends like Google, who sell your personal information to the highest bidder", who needs enemies?

Is that better?
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.

Kenny wrote:
"You don’t need faith, logic, reason, proof, or anything else to be atheist, all you need to do is reject what someone told you."



St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony

User avatar
Philip
Board Moderator
Posts: 8319
Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:45 pm
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Day-Age
Location: Betwixt the Sea and the Mountains
Has liked: 391 times
Been liked: 622 times

Re: Kanye West's Church Services

#7

Post by Philip » Wed Jul 24, 2019 6:58 pm

y:-?

User avatar
Kurieuo
Honored Member
Posts: 9958
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:25 am
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Progressive Creationist
Location: Qld, Australia
Has liked: 634 times
Been liked: 653 times

Re: Kanye West's Church Services

#8

Post by Kurieuo » Tue Oct 29, 2019 10:08 pm

I think it's awesome the page Kanye has turned in his life.

Also quite like some songs in his new album, Jesus is King: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T58tRXz ... Ze0QI1tED8
These users liked this post by Kurieuo:
Nicki (Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:09 am)
"Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved." (Romans 10:13)

claysmithr
Established Member
Posts: 198
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:07 pm
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Undecided
Has liked: 123 times
Been liked: 15 times

Re: Kanye West's Church Services

#9

Post by claysmithr » Sun Nov 17, 2019 4:56 pm

I think he needs to layoff trying to be a Christian leader tho, he brand new. Take some time to learn the bible.

User avatar
Kurieuo
Honored Member
Posts: 9958
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:25 am
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Progressive Creationist
Location: Qld, Australia
Has liked: 634 times
Been liked: 653 times

Re: Kanye West's Church Services

#10

Post by Kurieuo » Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:28 am

Didn't you watch him with James Corden? He reads the Bible after kids are in bed. Perhaps it is to the shame of Christian "leaders" to date, that God uses someone so brand new. Seems to me God is using him to harvest many such just can't reach. There are flaws I see, but God makes do with flawed vessels just fine.
These users liked this post by Kurieuo:
claysmithr (Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:44 am)
"Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved." (Romans 10:13)

claysmithr
Established Member
Posts: 198
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2017 1:07 pm
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Undecided
Has liked: 123 times
Been liked: 15 times

Re: Kanye West's Church Services

#11

Post by claysmithr » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:33 am

At this point it feels like he will do anything to stay in the headlines, I hope I'm wrong

User avatar
Philip
Board Moderator
Posts: 8319
Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:45 pm
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Day-Age
Location: Betwixt the Sea and the Mountains
Has liked: 391 times
Been liked: 622 times

Re: Kanye West's Church Services

#12

Post by Philip » Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:45 am

Well, Franklin Graham thinks Kanye's conversion is authentic and his actions positive: https://www.foxnews.com/faith-values/fr ... -operation

Blessed
Valued Member
Posts: 486
Joined: Mon Apr 24, 2017 1:01 am
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Undecided
Location: Los Angeles, Florida, Las Vegas
Has liked: 0
Been liked: 19 times
Contact:

Re: Kanye West's Church Services

#13

Post by Blessed » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:24 am

I guess this makes up for promoting violence, materialism, sex with underage girls and distributing pornography huh .. ?

User avatar
Philip
Board Moderator
Posts: 8319
Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:45 pm
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Day-Age
Location: Betwixt the Sea and the Mountains
Has liked: 391 times
Been liked: 622 times

Re: Kanye West's Church Services

#14

Post by Philip » Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:37 am

Blessed: I guess this makes up for promoting violence, materialism, sex with underage girls and distributing pornography huh .. ?
NO! And if he has truly turned to the Lord, then he will begin to abandon such things and see them differently / as sin. We just can't know yet, for certain, what is going on with him, in his heart. But God saves people where they ARE, not where he wants them to be behavior-wise. A new Christian is merely saved, and the sanctification process has merely begun in the sense of attitude, beliefs and behavior. One doesn't get their act together and THEN God saves them - that's not how He works. And one doesn't become saved and then immediately they've got their sin issues and attitude under control. But it does mean they have submitted to God and recognized that His ways are what they should always be striving for. But learning to walk as God wants us is a long and messy process.

And one last thing - we should all be praying for Kanye in his faith and influence of it. If he'll be receptive to God's promptings, God could use him to reach millions who wouldn't set foot in a church!

User avatar
Kurieuo
Honored Member
Posts: 9958
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2004 6:25 am
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Progressive Creationist
Location: Qld, Australia
Has liked: 634 times
Been liked: 653 times

Re: Kanye West's Church Services

#15

Post by Kurieuo » Tue Nov 19, 2019 7:50 am

Is God both Righteous and Loving?

Blessed, if you're going to lean into God's righteousness, then we're all in a sticky position because we're all deserving of God's righteous wrath. Unless you are saying you're righteous enough to meet God's standard, or that some of us are?

Perhaps you should go into a monastery and whip yourself every evil thought like Luther once did. Perhaps you'll learn to be 100% righteous. Yet, it won't undo your wrong to date, but perhaps, just perhaps God will deem you righteous if you're able to be good "enough" from here on out. Then again, a fully righteous God ought to reject you even for one wrong.
"Whoever will call on the name of the Lord will be saved." (Romans 10:13)

Post Reply