You asked me questions and I answered them and responded with questions of my own. Instead of responding to my questions as I did for yours, you ignore my questions and repeat the same false information over and over again. If you were interested in having an actual conversation, you would offer me the same courtesy I offered you by responding to my actual post, as I did yours. It’s obvious all you want to do is preach, but you refuse to listen.abelcainsbrother wrote:I already explained that nobody not even atheists gets a pass when it comes to evidence behind what you have accepted. Yet here you are excluding yourself,proving me right that there is no way to know atheism is the correct choice a person should make.Don't get confused by words. Atheists choose to reject god's and overlook or explain away evidence for God,while having no evidence themselves and only their opinion at best.Take some time to think about this.Kenny wrote:Kenny wrote:Are you going to answer my question? Or are you going to continue to repeat the same misinformation over and over again?abelcainsbrother wrote:Kenny there is no way you can say you go by evidence instead of faith after having admitted you have chosen atheism knowing there is no evidence or reasons to choose to accept atheism while ignoring the massive amount of evidence behind Christianity,but in this case even false religions bring more evidence to the table than you have or can. You see before I ever had these kinds of discussions with atheists I used to have these kind of discussions with people in other religions and had to confront their evidence,but with atheists/agnostics they have no evidence to confront,just arguments against God is all they've got,but this is not evidence to know atheism is a choice a person should make because of no evidence behind their opinion of atheism.I'm not trying to insult your intelligence or anything like that. I'm trying to get you to realize the games atheists play on people like you and after I have done it,you can accept it or reject it,but you will not be able to be intellectually honest with yourself after I am done and this is why you are getting uncomfortable about this discussion but whether you accept it or not you cannot refute it and you'll have to live knowing this.Kenny wrote:
The reason I am a skeptic is because I accept evidence instead of faith, trust, or simply taking someone else's word for it.
Again; what are these “atheistic opinions” you keep speaking of? I’ve got a feeling the problem is you are having trouble understanding what an atheist, or even a skeptic actually is! This is something we need to clarify before we can go any further because otherwise we will just be talking past each other. Again; what are some of these atheistic opinions that you are convinced atheists hold?
It does not matter what an atheist or a skeptic really is. You are focusing on the wrong thing. You should be focusing on how atheists convince people to be an atheist,Skeptic,etc based on the idea that they are excluded from having to have any evidence based on the default position,so they exclude themselves from needing to have any evidence behind their atheistic opinions that leads them to reject god's. They have absolutely no evidence yet judge others evidence based on their atheistic opinion that has no evidence behind it.There is no reason based on evidence to choose to be an atheist compared to the evidence in Christianity,other false religions,science,etc. Atheists have nothing to bring to the table except their judgmental atheistic opinion.Nobody should choose atheism based on this.Again; what are these “atheistic opinions” you keep speaking of? I’ve got a feeling the problem is you are having trouble understanding what an atheist, or even a skeptic actually is! This is something we need to clarify before we can go any further because otherwise we will just be talking past each other. Again; what are some of these atheistic opinions that you are convinced atheists hold?
KenWhat do you mean when you say “reject god’s”? Reject their existence? Reject they are who worshippers claim they are? Or something else.abelcainsbrother wrote:Atheists have accepted an opinion that causes them to reject god's.Do you believe someone should have evidence against a claim in order to reject it? Ex If I told you I were a billionaire, and you had no way of proving I am not, should you be obligated to take my word for it without me providing evidence that supports my claim to your satisfaction?abelcainsbrother wrote:I call it an opinion based on knowing they have no evidence behind it.Atheist opinion? Again; what opinion do you think Atheists have? And what truths do you think Atheists claim to have on their sides?abelcainsbrother wrote:How do you know you are not wrong to have accepted your atheist opinion and do you care if you have truth on your side without any evidence?I don’t think it is a matter of misunderstanding something; I think it is a matter of having misinformation.abelcainsbrother wrote:But if I have misunderstood something then please explain how.
Also Christians being fed to lions because they refused to reject Jesus and the fact he rose from the dead is even more evidence Christianity is true. People do not die for what they know are lies. I bet if you know you saw Jesus be crucified,seen him die and then seen him after he rose from the dead like he said he would before it happened and he told you to go preach the gospel and filled you with the Holy Spirit,no matter how afraid you may have been when they were crucifying him you would be willing to die even if nobody believed you. No government,ruler,etc could stop you from preaching Jesus rose from the dead,no matter if they threw you in jail and warned you and demanded that you stop doing it. You would tell them to go fly a kite!
I believe it was Charles Goethe who said it best when he said
“what the world needs right now is less Preachers, and more Teachers.
Wise words indeed. Perhaps you should go find a choir to preach to; I think we're done here. Good luck my friend!