Proinsias wrote:To describe someone as "the most die hard anti-....." automatically conjures up notions of emotional attachment regardless of the subject matter in most cases I can think of. Might be better aiming for a dialogue instead of 'burden of proof' tennis. It would be very wearisome if someone wanting to proclaim a life free of religion would be under the burden of having to adequetaley refute the religious and philisophical underpinnings of all the major religious systems to the satisfaction of their members.
I've had them tell me they were anti-theist,also it might be wearisome but when they are claiming no God is real then it becomes belief and there are then reasons to believe it and these need to be explained,you cannot believe something for no reason and a lot of times it is from a corrupt understanding of the word of God and based on atheist talking points which is like a bible for them and they try to make you prove God is real just so they can explain it all away with talking points while they think they don't have to prove why God doesn't exist.It is a cop-out and weakness.It is just a game for them that do this and no matter how much evidence you present for God it is denied and rejected for intellectual dishonesty.It is a wonder how they can believe something so futile.
I kinda struggle with the label of atheism. In the more traditional, Greek/Roman, sense I feel it describes me fairly well in that I don't worship the Christian God which is/was the religion, and much of the culture, of my upbringing. In that same sense Christians were labelled atheists as they did not worship the Roman pantheon back in the day.
I'm a slow reader but after 15 years or so of reading a fair amount of Christian, daoist, hindu, buddhist and atheist thoughts alongside prayer, meditation and day to day life I feel Christianity, and theism in general, makes unreasonable assertions. But that's just me at the moment, things change.