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Re: Is impeachment and removal from office possible? What would it take?

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Post by abelcainsbrother » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:49 pm

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Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:02 pm
Just realized that I never answered my own question, and I know that some of you have been on the edges of your seats waiting for me to weigh in. Well, wait no longer, for I am about to speak my mind.

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I pretty much agree with DBowling. The GOP is in a tough spot - Trump is hurting their brand, as evidenced by the shellacking they took in the midterms, but he has a fanatically loyal base. Any Republican Senator who votes yes on an impeachment charge is going to feel their wrath, and it's hard to say what they'd do if Trump was actually removed from office. Riot? Rebel? Form a third party? Boycott politics entirely? Nothing? Who knows.

I think that everyone knows that, including the Dems, so in the end they won't impeach. An impeachment without a conviction would be politically catastrophic, and a conviction will always be a longshot. The smart move is to wait Trump out.

Anyway, we'll see.

And you're welcome. I'm certain it was worth the wait.
LOL! We who support Donald Trump have left the old out-dated Republican vs Democrat political game that was played on us for decades and when you people still stuck in that old out-dated political game wake up you'll be thanking us. But you and DBowling are still stuck in a political game that was never-ending.We like the fact the GOP is in a rough spot but so is the Democrat Party. And both parties uniting suddenly after all of those fake Republican vs Democrat political battles where W,Obama and Hillary are best buds just proves us correct about how the corrupt Bush and Clinton families have run politics in America for far too long. Both parties are old out-dated failed parties trying to force their old out-dated ideas on Trump and the American people,but they both will fail by under-estimating Trump the counter puncher and when he is finished they will wish they never crossed him politically. You can forget all about impeachment as you were lied to by the Democrats and the media and they both have backed off on impeaching Trump. Oh and do you understand how congress works? Bills passed in the House have to get pass the Senate. You like our firewall? As President Trump only campaigned for Senators and we won.We can still put conservative Supreme court judges on the bench too with the Senate. What blue wave are you talking about? You've been lied to again.

The days of you liberals legislating your morality,beliefs and ideas on everybody else by using the Government while the Republicans allow you to are just about over. In the future when it comes to issues like abortion,same sex marriages,transgender bathrooms,etc you Democrats are actually going to have to get out and campaign on these ideas and debate,talk to,etc the American people and then put it to a vote for the American people to decide these things,NOT USE THE GOVERNMENT to bypass the American people. Think medical marijuana for example,these people did what the Democrats are going to have to do in the future as states are voting in medical marijuana and the people are deciding it,like it should be. Now personally I'm not so sure I like it but the American people are voting it in and not the Government,so it is not anti-US Constitution like it has been. As Q says Power back to the PEOPLE.
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Re: Is impeachment and removal from office possible? What would it take?

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Post by edwardmurphy » Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:16 pm

Clearly you don't understand how our shared government actually works. Here are some resources. I urge you to look at them.

Civics 101 podcast

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"Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible."

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"I don't take responsibility at all."

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Re: Is impeachment and removal from office possible? What would it take?

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Post by abelcainsbrother » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:28 am

edwardmurphy wrote:
Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:16 pm
Clearly you don't understand how our shared government actually works. Here are some resources. I urge you to look at them.

Civics 101 podcast

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I actually listened to the first one and it is liberals as always trying to figure out how to get around the Constitution and Bill of Rights. We have did it the liberal way for decades though and so we know it does not work.No amount of Trump hating or Trump bashing is going to convince us the liberal way works and is good for America because we already have proof it does not work because we lived through it where liberals totally disregarded the US Constitution and Bill of Rights and they are still doing it to Trump by investigating him without evidence of a crime and no trial.You liberals always think this cannot happen to you,but as we see it can and does happen to US citezens like Donald Trump and it happens to us the people too by illegal spying without evidence of a crime and no trial. You are setting yourself up to be blackmailed by the government,etc.You liberals also took away free speech in colleges only offering free speech zones in colleges, this is because you cannot debate the facts,and they are trying to take away our right to bear arms every time a criminal breaks the law,instead of punishing the criminal,you want to punish law abiding US citezens without evidence of a crime and no trial.NO MORE! As long as you continue to align yourself with the liberal ways you are an accomplice to crimes by ignoring the US Constitution and Bill of Rights to the people,NOT THE GOVERNMENT.

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Re: Is impeachment and removal from office possible? What would it take?

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Post by abelcainsbrother » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:20 am

I just want to say that just as Q reported the Mueller probe is ending and there will be no more indictments handed out,no Russia collusion was found at all,no evidence of any Russia meddling in the election,and yet according to the media and Democrats this was the smoking gun to remove President Trump from office,and yet nothing.As Q told us the Mueller investigation was a firewall for the Deep State and the leaders in our government who have broken the law.Trump could not declassify the FISA abuse evidence because of the Mueller investigation because of other investigations going on that would effect them,this all has to do with legal issues.But now the firewall is no more and there is nothing that can stop Trump from declassifying this evidence. But the time is still not quite right for it yet,as you are seeing carpet bombing first to soften up the target as Trump and the Q team strategically release alittle bit of evidence of crimes of the Obama administration,the FBI,CIA,etc at a time to awaken the people to the real crimes that were committed.Once enough of the American people are awakened then Trump can declassify the FISA evidence which is the MOAB(mother of all bombs). The Deep state and controlled MSM will try everything to ignore this evidence and even distract you with false flag attacks for the news to report on,if they do report on it it will be to spin it and explain it away.This is why they are leaking alittle bit of evidence to certian reporters at a time to the media until it becomes ridiculous for them to continue to ignore it.They explain it away,then more info is leaked that hurts their false narrative until it becomes ridiculous to keep on ignoring it and explaining it away.This allows the American people to look into it and investigate it themselves to see who are the real criminals and it is not President Donald Trump.
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Re: Is impeachment and removal from office possible? What would it take?

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Post by edwardmurphy » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:10 am

abelcainsbrother wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:28 am
I actually listened to the first one and it is liberals as always trying to figure out how to get around the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Interesting. Which one did you listen to?
"Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible."

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"I don't take responsibility at all."

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Re: Is impeachment and removal from office possible? What would it take?

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Post by edwardmurphy » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:12 am

abelcainsbrother wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:20 am
Yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah...
The report hasn't been released. We don't know what it says. It's too early to draw any conclusions.
"Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible."

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Re: Is impeachment and removal from office possible? What would it take?

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Post by DBowling » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:39 am

edwardmurphy wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:12 am
abelcainsbrother wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:20 am
Yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah...
The report hasn't been released. We don't know what it says. It's too early to draw any conclusions.
Not if you live in the fact free world of Q and the alt-right fake news.
But I expect we will know what conclusions Mueller came to within the next couple of days.

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Re: Is impeachment and removal from office possible? What would it take?

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Post by Stu » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:54 am

Was just watching CNN and even they are saying that Trump is in the clear.
Democrats and the left must be in a state of shock :lol:
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Re: Is impeachment and removal from office possible? What would it take?

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Post by edwardmurphy » Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:27 am

It wasn't a criminal investigation, it was an investigation of Russian interference in our electoral process. Collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia has already been established. That's old news. Obstruction is also a gimme - he fired Comey over the Russia investigation and said as much on national television. Boom. Obstruction. There are many, many more examples of obstruction, and you could make a good case for witness tampering, too, but I don't want to spend all day on this. In any halfway normal point in our history he'd have been impeached, convicted, and shown the door a year ago. Alas, these are not normal times. There's no possible way the Senate would convict Trump on obstruction, despite him being guilty as sin (of obstruction of justice and probably witness) and everyone knowing it.

As far as Trump being in the clear, that's pretty funny. In reality he's just barely taken his first steps into the deep, dark woods. The Dems are going to do everything in their power to get their hands on Trump's tax info, and a close inspection will likely reveal some shady business. The Dems are also going to redo the Mueller investigation - at least the damaging parts - as publicly as possibly. Trump is about to get Benghazi'd, and it's gonna sting. New York prosecutors are also looking into his businesses, potentially with a RICO case in mind. One of his campaign workers is suing him for sexual harassment - that's about 20 women making that claim at this point. His charity is under investigation. Laundering Russian money through Deutsche Bank seems like a possibility, as well. And that's just off the top of my head. I'm 100% certain I'm forgetting some stuff.

Anyway, the Sunday talk circuit has to fill their airtime. I doubt they know much more than we do. Regardless, I think we can be reasonably confident that there's a lot more drama to come.

And Abe, since you're sure to weigh in, and since like to close with videos, this is for you - Trump's Future
"Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible."

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"I don't take responsibility at all."

~ Donald J. Trump, now that he's the President

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Re: Is impeachment and removal from office possible? What would it take?

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Post by DBowling » Sun Mar 24, 2019 1:55 pm

DBowling wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:39 am
edwardmurphy wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:12 am
abelcainsbrother wrote:
Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:20 am
Yadda, yadda, yadda, blah, blah, blah...
The report hasn't been released. We don't know what it says. It's too early to draw any conclusions.
Not if you live in the fact free world of Q and the alt-right fake news.
But I expect we will know what conclusions Mueller came to within the next couple of days.
Now we know Mueller's conclusions on the two big issues.
1. Collusion - "The special counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election."
2. Obstruction - Mueller was unable to come to a conclusion regarding obstruction of justice.
However...
Attorney General Barr and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein made the following determination
"In cataloguing the President's actions, many of which took place in public view, the report identifies no actions that, in our judgment, constitute obstructive conduct, had a nexus to a pending or contemplated proceeding, and were done with corrupt intent, each of which, under the Department's principles of federal prosecution guiding charging decisions, would need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to establish an obstruction-of-justice offense."

Good news for the President.

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Post by Philip » Sun Mar 24, 2019 2:24 pm

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They thought they had him - and now things will just get crazier as the left melts down.

But if only Donnie would shut his tweetin' trap and quit his attacks on Z-list celebrities and responding like a sophomoric high school kid over every perceived slight, begin acting presidential / with dignity of the office, and learn to become a uniter and highlighter of good, positive, constructive, useful ideas, and stop demonizing everyone who disagrees with him. And note he doesn't merely attack people's ideas, but his attacks are often extremely personal and borderline vulgar. He thinks the same tactics that got him elected will sustain him - maybe / maybe not. But why unnecessarily make enemies???!!! Because while some on the progressive left might otherwise be convinced of some of his better ideas, none of them will ever seriously consider them because they won't first be able to see beyond his obnoxious personality! He's not thinking long term - as the us vs. them might work for a spell, but for our country's future, it's further polarizing us.

And AOC, Omar and their socialist / radical associates are merely mirroring his tactics from the left - and likewise polarizing us. Politicians using such tactics are poisoning any possibility of producing promising, civil dialogue. So, DT's tactics are insuring that he and the Republicans will miss whatever might create positive opportunities. And women particularly - half of all voters - many simply cannot be won over due to his crassness / crudeness - thus sinking whatever good might otherwise come from conservative politicians, as they'll either temporarily rule with him, or be torpedoed, depending upon how things go. There is such a thing as producing a winning movement that flounders and loses the greater war due to pure stupidity!

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Post by RickD » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:01 pm

Donnie?

That's an extremely disrespectful way to address your President.

Mr. Squirrel Head certainly would not approve.
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Post by Kurieuo » Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:32 pm

Truly a conspiracy.on par with Alex Jones'. Only it got wings with the MSM.
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Post by DBowling » Mon Mar 25, 2019 3:15 am

Kurieuo wrote:
Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:32 pm
Truly a conspiracy.on par with Alex Jones'. Only it got wings with the MSM.
Actually the Mueller Investigation did uncover a conspiracy, and unlike Alex Jones' conspiracies, the one Mueller uncovered had a basis in fact and reality.

Here are the indictments from the Mueller Investigation that were associated with the Russian conspiracy to interfere with the 2016 campaign
13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.

12 Russian GRU officers: These officers of Russia’s military intelligence service were charged with crimes related to the hacking and leaking of leading Democrats’ emails in 2016.
So contrary to Trump's assertions, Mueller did find extensive evidence of Russian interference in the 2016 campaign.

But in regards to any involvement by the Trump campaign in this Russian conspiracy, Mueller concluded:
"The special counsel's investigation did not find that the Trump campaign or anyone associated with it conspired or coordinated with Russia in its efforts to influence the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election."

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Post by PaulSacramento » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:41 am

Not the one to say "I told you so", but...


What was that saying about putting all your eggs in one basket?

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