Is impeachment and removal from office possible? What would it take?

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Re: Is impeachment and removal from office possible? What would it take?


Post by RickD » Wed Aug 21, 2019 4:59 pm

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For starters, anyone who's promising free stuff, without realizing how expensive it is, to make it free.
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And do you have a specific example of that happening? Seriously, guys, if the Dems have gone full on radical then that should be trivial.
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Post by abelcainsbrother » Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:36 pm

Earlier in this thread I mentioned how in the alt-right media we have Christians,atheists,agnostics,pagans,etc and I mentioned knowing of an atheist who became a Christian based on what we have learned.Actually he has returned and rediscovered his faith in Christianity. Here is his testimony video.
Rediscovering Faith:My Journey Back To Christianity.
Hebrews 12:2-3 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,despising the shame,and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.

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Post by edwardmurphy » Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:07 am

This is radical. Also evil.
This does seem radical. Then again, at the moment the way it works is that sick illegal immigrants do nothing until things are so bad that they have to go to the ER. The ER then treats them (along with all of the uninsured citizens who can't afford preventative medicine either) and then passes the bill along to the rest of us. Since ER visits are the most expensive options that's a bit cost for us to absorb. That's part of the reason that we spend $10,739 per person on annual healthcare (back in 2017, so I'm sure it's more now).

It's really easy to sneer at the people making suggestions and talk about how stupid and radical they are. It's harder to come up with suggestions to fix a badly broken system. So what should we do?
I'm not sure that an idea can really be seen as "radical" if it has majority support, or if it's been successfully implemented in every other developed nation on the planet. As far as taxes needing to be raised, that's true, but it would be offset by American workers and employers no longer needing to pay gigantic healthcare premiums with five thousand dollar deductibles.
This is a Republican pundit's description of a Democratic proposal. I could provide you with a Democratic pundit's counterpoint, but there's not much point.

We live in a time when higher education is both a requirement for our workforce and an an unmanageable expense for many of our young people. Many of our young people are crippled by college debt and therefore cannot fully participate in the economy. Other young people are stuck in poverty because they cannot afford higher education. That's bad for us all. Furthermore, many of our companies are saying that they can't find qualified workers, and that they need to import them on H1B visas. That's bad for American workers. That's a problem.

The Democratic proposal - generally speaking, as there are actually a variety of proposals - is to make public colleges free to qualified applicants as an investment in our workforce and the future of our country. Now, I think that we can all agree that the problem I outlined above is both real and a problem. Unfortunately, the GOP response to the Democratic proposal is to call liberals idiot socialists. Their counterproposal, as far as I can tell, has yet to be drafted.

An honest Republican - a Republican who gave a [poop] about our country - might reply with a counter proposal. That Republican might say, for example, that free education makes a lot of sense in certain situations, but not in all cases. They might insist that it be limited to kids who passed rigorous entrance exams, majored in high-need subjects, and maintained a 3.0 GPA. They might push back against free baccalaureate programs, but go in on free community college programs geared toward earning kids certificates in high demand fields. They might offer tax credits to companies that worked with community colleges to train up American workers, rather than importing labor from Asia. They might try to come up with a [love] solution to a huge, glaringly obvious problem.

Or they could scream about radical socialism...
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