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Trump saying Mexico will pay for the wall

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:58 am
by ultimate777
When someone is saying something over and over again you believe is untrue and gaining great benefit from it which may harm other people and then they start acting like they never said it is it fair to try to mitigate the harm they have done by making their life a living hell?

I believe in Trump's case it is. He kept saying over and over again that Mexico will pay for the wall. I never believed him.
But I think it helped him to get many votes to say it and it was careless at best for him to say it.

IMHO Trump having his way is bad for the country, and those who agree should use his Mexico paying promise as a club to beat him unmercifully. I call upon the mainstream media to do so and will try to get the word to them.
Maybe you can help. :ebiggrin:

The worst that can happen is Mexico pays for the wall :lol:

Does a person have to believe they are lying to lie?

Do you think Trump ever seriously believed Mexico would pay for the wall, and if he did think that, why did he?

Re: Trump saying Mexico will pay for the wall

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:05 am
by thatkidakayoungguy
Yes I think he did and that is to keep illegals out. He don't hate all Mexicans, he just wants illegals out since their illegals. It might be unfortunate but it seems to be the best option.

Re: Trump saying Mexico will pay for the wall

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:28 am
by Ged
Neither Mexico or the US can afford a solid, continuous wall. Something in strategic places would be more logical, and respectful speech toward neighbors would help too.

Re: Trump saying Mexico will pay for the wall

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:25 pm
by RickD
As far as I know, Mexico is still going to pay for the wall, whether they like it or not.

Re: Trump saying Mexico will pay for the wall

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:00 pm
by abelcainsbrother
ultimate777 wrote:When someone is saying something over and over again you believe is untrue and gaining great benefit from it which may harm other people and then they start acting like they never said it is it fair to try to mitigate the harm they have done by making their life a living hell?

I believe in Trump's case it is. He kept saying over and over again that Mexico will pay for the wall. I never believed him.
But I think it helped him to get many votes to say it and it was careless at best for him to say it.

IMHO Trump having his way is bad for the country, and those who agree should use his Mexico paying promise as a club to beat him unmercifully. I call upon the mainstream media to do so and will try to get the word to them.
Maybe you can help. :ebiggrin:

The worst that can happen is Mexico pays for the wall :lol:

Does a person have to believe they are lying to lie?

Do you think Trump ever seriously believed Mexico would pay for the wall, and if he did think that, why did he?
Yes and Mexico will pay for the wall.Trump is not lying.They owe America in trade defecits alot more than the wall costs,so why won't they pay for it? America has the economic advantage over any country.There are companies that have already put in bids to build the wall.It is coming and it is about time.Then they can come in legally.

Re: Trump saying Mexico will pay for the wall

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:52 pm
by Ged
Mexico is your neighbor. Stop illegal immigrants by all means, but don't be a bully.

Re: Trump saying Mexico will pay for the wall

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:17 pm
by Nessa

Re: Trump saying Mexico will pay for the wall

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:28 pm
by DBowling
Who will pay for the wall?
1. American taxpayers, whose tax money will go to Trump's boondoggle instead of something that actually benefits the American people
2. American consumers, who will pay more for products because of tariffs placed on the products they are purchasing
3. American farmers. Due to Trump's inflamatory rhetoric, Mexico is already drafting retaliatory legislation to decrease the amount of food that Mexico purchases from American farmers.

The people who will really end up 'paying for' Trump's Wall are the American people.

Re: Trump saying Mexico will pay for the wall

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:37 pm
by edwardmurphy
Abe, a trade deficit isn't a debt. They don't owe us anything.

Re: Trump saying Mexico will pay for the wall

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:15 pm
by ultimate777
thatkidakayoungguy wrote:Yes I think he did and that is to keep illegals out. He don't hate all Mexicans, he just wants illegals out since their illegals. It might be unfortunate but it seems to be the best option.
Think what you said over and say it again in a way I can understand, please.

Re: Trump saying Mexico will pay for the wall

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:16 pm
by ultimate777
RickD wrote:As far as I know, Mexico is still going to pay for the wall, whether they like it or not.
You don't believe that.

Re: Trump saying Mexico will pay for the wall

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:19 pm
by ultimate777
abelcainsbrother wrote:
ultimate777 wrote:When someone is saying something over and over again you believe is untrue and gaining great benefit from it which may harm other people and then they start acting like they never said it is it fair to try to mitigate the harm they have done by making their life a living hell?

I believe in Trump's case it is. He kept saying over and over again that Mexico will pay for the wall. I never believed him.
But I think it helped him to get many votes to say it and it was careless at best for him to say it.

IMHO Trump having his way is bad for the country, and those who agree should use his Mexico paying promise as a club to beat him unmercifully. I call upon the mainstream media to do so and will try to get the word to them.
Maybe you can help. :ebiggrin:

The worst that can happen is Mexico pays for the wall :lol:

Does a person have to believe they are lying to lie?

Do you think Trump ever seriously believed Mexico would pay for the wall, and if he did think that, why did he?
Yes and Mexico will pay for the wall.Trump is not lying.They owe America in trade defecits alot more than the wall costs,so why won't they pay for it? America has the economic advantage over any country.There are companies that have already put in bids to build the wall.It is coming and it is about time.Then they can come in legally.
OTOH, you probably believe that :pound:

Re: Trump saying Mexico will pay for the wall

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:22 pm
by ultimate777
DBowling wrote:Who will pay for the wall?
1. American taxpayers, whose tax money will go to Trump's boondoggle instead of something that actually benefits the American people
2. American consumers, who will pay more for products because of tariffs placed on the products they are purchasing
3. American farmers. Due to Trump's inflamatory rhetoric, Mexico is already drafting retaliatory legislation to decrease the amount of food that Mexico purchases from American farmers.

The people who will really end up 'paying for' Trump's Wall are the American people.
You could be dead wrong, IT MIGHT NEVER GET BUILT y[-o<

Re: Trump saying Mexico will pay for the wall

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:33 am
by RickD
ultimate777 wrote:
RickD wrote:As far as I know, Mexico is still going to pay for the wall, whether they like it or not.
You don't believe that.
Of course I do. Just like I believe Trump when he said that if he were president, Hillary would be in jail.

I'm just patiently waiting...

Re: Trump saying Mexico will pay for the wall

Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 8:30 am
by thatkidakayoungguy
Sometimes my mind races and my thoughts get disorganized.
So yes I think he is going to build the wall and that is to keep illegals out. Btw, he doesn't hate all Mexicans, in fact I remember him saying that he assumed some were good people, just to let you know.
The only people he wants out are illegals and that is bc they are illegals, not that he hates them.