5 Public Schools Have Installed Muslim Prayer Rooms

Discussions about politics and goings on around the world. (Please keep discussions civil!)
User avatar
B. W.
Board Moderator
Posts: 8034
Joined: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:17 am
Christian: Yes
Location: Colorado

5 Public Schools Have Installed Muslim Prayer Rooms

Postby B. W. » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:39 am

Science is man's invention - creation is God's
(by B. W. Melvin)

Old Polish Proverb:
Not my Circus....not my monkeys

User avatar
edwardmurphy
Esteemed Senior Member
Posts: 1496
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:45 am
Christian: No
Sex: Male
Creation Position: I don't believe in creation

Re: 5 Public Schools Have Installed Muslim Prayer Rooms

Postby edwardmurphy » Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:06 am

They were attempting to satisfy Muslim prayer requirements without disturbing people of other faiths or interfering with policies regarding religion.

Did you not read your own article?
If you're accustomed to privilege equality may feel like oppression.

Something for us all to consider. (Thanks, Paul)

Individual, silent, personal prayer never has and never could be outlawed in public schools. - FFRF

Hortator
Senior Member
Posts: 697
Joined: Mon May 25, 2015 5:00 pm
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Theistic Evolution
Location: Ohio

Re: 5 Public Schools Have Installed Muslim Prayer Rooms

Postby Hortator » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:15 pm

No offense B-Dawg but this article is a tad old, no?

User avatar
edwardmurphy
Esteemed Senior Member
Posts: 1496
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:45 am
Christian: No
Sex: Male
Creation Position: I don't believe in creation

Re: 5 Public Schools Have Installed Muslim Prayer Rooms

Postby edwardmurphy » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:18 pm

It's never too late to be outraged. B.W.'s still fuming over the fall of Constantinople.
If you're accustomed to privilege equality may feel like oppression.

Something for us all to consider. (Thanks, Paul)

Individual, silent, personal prayer never has and never could be outlawed in public schools. - FFRF

Hortator
Senior Member
Posts: 697
Joined: Mon May 25, 2015 5:00 pm
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Theistic Evolution
Location: Ohio

Re: 5 Public Schools Have Installed Muslim Prayer Rooms

Postby Hortator » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:32 pm

edwardmurphy wrote:It's never too late to be outraged. B.W.'s still fuming over the fall of Constantinople.

:lol: okay that was pretty good Ed. You should try humor more often like we do.

User avatar
edwardmurphy
Esteemed Senior Member
Posts: 1496
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:45 am
Christian: No
Sex: Male
Creation Position: I don't believe in creation

Re: 5 Public Schools Have Installed Muslim Prayer Rooms

Postby edwardmurphy » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:59 pm

I do humor all the time. It just tends to have a serrated edge.
If you're accustomed to privilege equality may feel like oppression.

Something for us all to consider. (Thanks, Paul)

Individual, silent, personal prayer never has and never could be outlawed in public schools. - FFRF

User avatar
RickD
Board Moderator
Posts: 18594
Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:59 am
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Day-Age
Location: Kamino

Re: 5 Public Schools Have Installed Muslim Prayer Rooms

Postby RickD » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:05 pm

When Christians want to pray in school, the schools cry, "separation of church and state".

But when Muslims want to pray, they rearrange the schedule to accommodate them?

I guess maybe the double standard is because Christians don't chop people's heads off when they don't get their way.
1 Corinthians 1:9
9 God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

Audie wrote:
"Christianity is not a joke, but it has some very poor representatives."


St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony

User avatar
edwardmurphy
Esteemed Senior Member
Posts: 1496
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:45 am
Christian: No
Sex: Male
Creation Position: I don't believe in creation

Re: 5 Public Schools Have Installed Muslim Prayer Rooms

Postby edwardmurphy » Thu Mar 09, 2017 8:20 pm

RickD wrote:When Christians want to pray in school, the schools cry, "separation of church and state".


Waaaaah!!!

But seriously, enough with that already. It's NOT TRUE!!!

Christian kids can pray at school pretty much whenever they feel like it. Kids can organize prayer groups at lunch if they get the urge. Christian teachers can legally teach a Bible study group to their students in their classrooms, provided that they don't do it during instructional time. Nobody banned prayer in school.

The thing that was banned was prayer led by teachers or administrators during instructional time. And guess what? Muslim prayers led by teachers or administrators during instructional time would also be illegal. There's no double standard, Rick.

But when Muslims want to pray, they rearrange the schedule to accommodate them?


Seems like you're being disingenuous, Rickster. The Muslim kids have the right to pray, same as the Christian and Jewish kids. The difference is that the Muslim kids are expected to prostrate themselves in the general direction of Mecca (lol, other peoples' religions r so dumb, amirite?).

So anyway, where should they pray? Back of the classroom? Parking lot? In the hallway between classes?

No need to answer that - it was rhetorical. I know that there is no right answer. The only thing that will satisfy conservative Christians is a ban on Muslim prayers, but that's unconstitutional so I guess there's no solution.

I guess maybe the double standard is because Christians don't chop people's heads off when they don't get their way.


Come on, Rick, you're better than that...
If you're accustomed to privilege equality may feel like oppression.

Something for us all to consider. (Thanks, Paul)

Individual, silent, personal prayer never has and never could be outlawed in public schools. - FFRF

PaulSacramento
Board Moderator
Posts: 8042
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:29 pm
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Theistic Evolution
Location: Ontario, Canada

Re: 5 Public Schools Have Installed Muslim Prayer Rooms

Postby PaulSacramento » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:18 am

Nothing wrong with public schools having designated prayer rooms for different faiths.

User avatar
B. W.
Board Moderator
Posts: 8034
Joined: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:17 am
Christian: Yes
Location: Colorado

Re: 5 Public Schools Have Installed Muslim Prayer Rooms

Postby B. W. » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:26 am

edwardmurphy wrote:It's never too late to be outraged. B.W.'s still fuming over the fall of Constantinople.


Your comment is in violation of forum rules .... Warning...

Trolling....

-
-
Science is man's invention - creation is God's
(by B. W. Melvin)

Old Polish Proverb:
Not my Circus....not my monkeys

User avatar
B. W.
Board Moderator
Posts: 8034
Joined: Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:17 am
Christian: Yes
Location: Colorado

Re: 5 Public Schools Have Installed Muslim Prayer Rooms

Postby B. W. » Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:41 am

edwardmurphy wrote:They were attempting to satisfy Muslim prayer requirements without disturbing people of other faiths or interfering with policies regarding religion.

Did you not read your own article?



According to Freedom From Religion Foundation. No this must not be permitted

https://ffrf.org/outreach/item/14029-pr ... lic-school

-
-
-
Science is man's invention - creation is God's
(by B. W. Melvin)

Old Polish Proverb:
Not my Circus....not my monkeys

User avatar
edwardmurphy
Esteemed Senior Member
Posts: 1496
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:45 am
Christian: No
Sex: Male
Creation Position: I don't believe in creation

Re: 5 Public Schools Have Installed Muslim Prayer Rooms

Postby edwardmurphy » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:00 am

You posted this for Rick, right?

Can't Students Pray in Public Schools Now?

Individual, silent, personal prayer never has and never could be outlawed in public schools. The courts have declared government-fostered prayers unconstitutional - those led, required, sanctioned, scheduled or suggested by officials.


So where does it say that a school cannot provide students with a place in which to voluntarily pray? And if it doesn't then what are you talking about?
If you're accustomed to privilege equality may feel like oppression.

Something for us all to consider. (Thanks, Paul)

Individual, silent, personal prayer never has and never could be outlawed in public schools. - FFRF

User avatar
RickD
Board Moderator
Posts: 18594
Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:59 am
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Day-Age
Location: Kamino

Re: 5 Public Schools Have Installed Muslim Prayer Rooms

Postby RickD » Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:15 pm

edwardmurphy wrote:You posted this for Rick, right?

Can't Students Pray in Public Schools Now?

Individual, silent, personal prayer never has and never could be outlawed in public schools. The courts have declared government-fostered prayers unconstitutional - those led, required, sanctioned, scheduled or suggested by officials.


So where does it say that a school cannot provide students with a place in which to voluntarily pray? And if it doesn't then what are you talking about?

Read the second half. Scheduled prayers are unconstitutional.

It's not rocket surgery.
1 Corinthians 1:9
9 God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

Audie wrote:
"Christianity is not a joke, but it has some very poor representatives."


St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony

User avatar
edwardmurphy
Esteemed Senior Member
Posts: 1496
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:45 am
Christian: No
Sex: Male
Creation Position: I don't believe in creation

Re: 5 Public Schools Have Installed Muslim Prayer Rooms

Postby edwardmurphy » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:11 pm

Nope.

Can't Students Pray in Public Schools Now?

Individual, silent, personal prayer never has and never could be outlawed in public schools. The courts have declared government-fostered prayers unconstitutional - those led, required, sanctioned, scheduled or suggested by officials.


If the kids want to schedule a time and/or place to pray they have the right to do so. There's no double standard.
If you're accustomed to privilege equality may feel like oppression.

Something for us all to consider. (Thanks, Paul)

Individual, silent, personal prayer never has and never could be outlawed in public schools. - FFRF

User avatar
RickD
Board Moderator
Posts: 18594
Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:59 am
Christian: Yes
Sex: Male
Creation Position: Day-Age
Location: Kamino

Re: 5 Public Schools Have Installed Muslim Prayer Rooms

Postby RickD » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:01 pm

edwardmurphy wrote:Nope.

Can't Students Pray in Public Schools Now?

Individual, silent, personal prayer never has and never could be outlawed in public schools. The courts have declared government-fostered prayers unconstitutional - those led, required, sanctioned, scheduled or suggested by officials.


If the kids want to schedule a time and/or place to pray they have the right to do so. There's no double standard.

Ed, seriously, did you read the link? The officials are who scheduled the places and times for prayer!
1 Corinthians 1:9
9 God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

Audie wrote:
"Christianity is not a joke, but it has some very poor representatives."


St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony


Return to “Politics and World Events”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests