Lonewolf wrote:G'Man labelled it as ~> Complete Rubbish
To not lend credence to any “historical fact” about Zionism, and how Zionism rules over the State of Israel and over the Palestinian people is the real and “complete rubbish.”
What I’m saying is not antisemitism, but most assuredly anti-Zionist!
Most folks can’t tell the difference, unless they'd like to "educate themselves" on the subject.
Educate us on what? The established of Israel in 1948 was a SECULAR movement started by the UN for the Jewish people who have ALWAYS BEEN indigenous to state of Israel. The UN is not a Zionist movement or entity. It's a conglomeration of nations that could care less about the things of G-d.. Jews were "exiled" to Israel from not only Europe not also various parts of the middle east after their homes and synagogues were taken over or burnt to the ground by demonic people..
If you want to educate yourself, educate yourself on the extremist philosophies of Hamas, ISIS, Hezbollah, the Muslim brotherhood and the other various evil groups that not only wish to kill Jews but any other "peaceful" Arabs as well that oppose them.
Lonewolf wrote:I wonder just how well we are interpreting things and prophesies these days., We looked to the physical return of Israel as a fulfillment of prophesy, but yet, if we read back in time, regarding the destruction and rebuilding of the temple of which Jesus foretold to the Jews, and yet, they did not believe, for they did not “understand.” They laughed and mocked and said, this man is crazy., he’s a looney toon., talking about destroying this temple which we have built our whole “religious” faith upon and has taken how many years upon years to complete? And then He says that He will rebuild it in 3 days., how is that possible? .. But yet it happened, and we all are witness to that, aren't we? We looked to witness the rebirth of Israel ~> so that the bringing back to the land of milk and honey prophesied in scripture would be accomplished, but could that bringing back be “a spiritual one” instead of an “earthly State” ??
Again.. Most Jews could care less about prophecy. The establishment of Israel had nothing to do with prophecy but were given the land as the "correct" owners of it who already had the majority of the populations in their areas. It was simply the logical choice..
Lonewolf wrote:Does it make sense to bring back Israel in a nationhood sense of things to this earth just to have them behave as all the rest of the imperial nations of this world behave? Could they be, in a sense, have become like Babylon themselves? All high and mighty morally, intellectually, scriptural and such, but yet ~> be devoid of Love?
That is baloney.. The Jewish people have no intention of hurting their neighbors and are in fact helping them in NUMEROUS ways..
"Arabs in Israel have equal voting rights; in fact, it is one of the few places in the Middle East where Arab women may vote. Arabs in 2011 held 14 seats in the 120-seat Knesset. Israeli Arabs have also held various government posts, including one who served as Israel’s ambassador to Finland and the deputy mayor of Tel Aviv. Oscar Abu Razaq was appointed Director General of the Ministry of Interior, the first Arab citizen to become chief executive of a key government ministry. Ariel Sharon’s original cabinet included the first Arab minister, Salah Tarif, a Druze who served as a minister without portfolio. An Arab is also a Supreme Court justice. In October 2005, an Arab professor was named Vice President of Haifa University.
Arabic, like Hebrew, is an official language in Israel. More than 300,000 Arab children attend Israeli schools. At the time of Israel’s founding, there was one Arab high school in the country. Today, there are hundreds of Arab schools. 29
The sole legal distinction between Jewish and Arab citizens of Israel is that the latter are not required to serve in the Israeli army. This is to spare Arab citizens the need to take up arms against their brethren. Nevertheless, Bedouins have served in paratroop units and other Arabs have volunteered for military duty. Compulsory military service is applied to the Druze and Circassian communities at their own request.
Some economic and social gaps between Israeli Jews and Arabs result from the latter not serving in the military. Veterans qualify for many benefits not available to non-veterans. Moreover, the army aids in the socialization process.
On the other hand, Arabs do have an advantage in obtaining some jobs during the years Israelis are in the military. In addition, industries like construction and trucking have come to be dominated by Israeli Arabs.
Although Israeli Arabs have occasionally been involved in terrorist activities, they have generally behaved as loyal citizens. During the 1967, 1973 and 1982 wars, none engaged in any acts of sabotage or disloyalty. Sometimes, in fact, Arabs volunteered to take over civilian functions for reservists. During the Palestinian War that began in September 2000, Israeli Arabs for the first time engaged in widespread protests.
The United States has been independent for 235 years and still has not integrated all of its diverse communities. Even today, nearly half a century after civil rights legislation was adopted, discrimination has not been eradicated. It should not be surprising that Israel has not solved all of its social problems in only 63 years."
Source: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... ights.html
Lonewolf wrote:Could it be that Zionist Jews still think of the Palestinians today ..
~> as they did once of the Gentiles as dogs? And maybe still do?
It is sad sad indeed, that the Jewish People have had to endure so much hate and violence throughout history, before and after Christ., from Assyrians to Persians, to Egyptians and Greeks, to Romans and Christians, to the Spanish Inquisition, Nazi Germany and Stalin’s purge, onto today’s onslaught from fundamental jihadist Islam., but you have to ask, you have to wonder just what exactly are many who represent the Jewish State are all about? Are they representing what we would term “Christian values?” Or is it something else? .. Just because a person looks like us and talks like us, doesn't necessarily mean that they “think” like us, nor do they necessarily wish the same for the world as we do. That's not being anti-Jewish people ~> that's simple questioning and going against what some in power within the Jewish People are working for!
Again.. The nation of Israel is a SECULAR state composed of people who for the most part care less about the things of the Bible, there is only a small portion of religious Jews living there mainly around the city of Jerusalem.... Over a million of the inhabitants of Israel are in fact Muslim Arabs. Arab members are also part of the Israeli Knesset.
Lonewolf wrote:Even here in the United States we question what the hell is Washington doing? What in tarnation is the Ford, the Carter, the Reagan, the Bush Senior, Clinton, Bush Junior or Obama doing? What the hell!? It's all going to the gutter!
Whatever happened to that –so called- second commandment? The one that “commands” to Love our neighbor and do unto them, as we would have done unto us?
If you truly believe that then why are you sending your taxes to our government that in turn spend it on the police force, the Army, or our judicial system?
Lonewolf wrote:Would we send F-16’s and Apache attack helicopters to bomb a “strip” in search for that one target, regardless of whether bombing that strip kills all others around them? Is that really self defense? Is that really in the advancement for peace? Is that really demonstrating Christian values?
I wonder what Christ our LORD and Paul would have to say about that ?? I wonder not too much, because, I already know in my heart that they would not stand for it!
So why do you?
Why don't you protest our government then for bombing innocent civilians during WWII? Was it justified or not?
"A uranium gun-type atomic bomb (Little Boy) was dropped on Hiroshima on August 6, 1945, followed by a plutonium implosion-type bomb (Fat Man) on the city of Nagasaki on August 9. Within the first two to four months of the bombings, the acute effects killed 90,000–166,000 people in Hiroshima and 60,000–80,000 in Nagasaki; roughly half of the deaths in each city occurred on the first day. During the following months, large numbers died from the effect of burns, radiation sickness, and other injuries, compounded by illness. In both cities, most of the dead were civilians, although Hiroshima had a sizeable garrison."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bom ... d_Nagasaki