Oh yes, of course it is viewed that way, I know that.RickD wrote:Psalms 82, is almost universally understood as talking about human kings and or rulers. Frankly, I have no idea how or why you think it's talking about angels.PaulSacramento wrote:I have said over and over that here is NO SCRIPTURE that states that the sons of god are fallen angels, how many more times do I have to say it ?
As a matter of fact, there is no mention of the term "fallen angel".
Not sure how you can say that I don't understand what a fallen angel is, have you been reading ANY of my posts?
At BEST we can get the implication of a "fallen angel" from passages that speak of divine beings rebelling against god:
https://www.openbible.info/topics/fallen_angels
Nowhere do you find the title or term that equal "fallen angel" in the OT or NT.
It may be Implied in some passages, yes, but is not explicit.
So, for the last time:
Sons of God does NOT mean fallen angel and to make things as clear as possible:
One MAY associate fallen angels with sons of god ONLY in passages that imply rebellion by sons of god and ONLY when sons of god implies divine beings which MAY or MAY NOT BE the case in Genesis 6.
Is that better?
As clear as mud.
NOW as for Pslam 82 and if referring to fallen angels, the verse is:
God has taken his place in the divine council;
in the midst of the gods he holds judgment:
2 “How long will you judge unjustly
and show partiality to the wicked? Selah
3 Give justice to the weak and the fatherless;
maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute.
4 Rescue the weak and the needy;
deliver them from the hand of the wicked.”
5 They have neither knowledge nor understanding,
they walk about in darkness;
all the foundations of the earth are shaken.
6 I said, “You are gods,
sons of the Most High, all of you;
7 nevertheless, like men you shall die,
and fall like any prince.”[a]
8 Arise, O God, judge the earth;
for you shall inherit all the nations!
If sons of God refers to divine beings ( and since God is in His place- heaven- in the midst of them, that means they ar ein heaven, so they are divine beings) and divine beings are angels ( not sure of anyone that will dispute that divine beings from heaven are called angels) and God says they will "die like men and FALL" ( verse 6-7), then one can deduce that some angels are fallen and these fallen angels were called sons of God.
Consensus doesn't mean it's right though, we all know that.
Now, I am NOT saying that my view is right, simply that it is a viable interpretation.
First time I heard about was second year theology class when a lecturer brought it up ( we were discussing alternate interpretations of passages).
I looked into it and read a few articles from some different scholars and there are some valid points as to why they can be divine beings or why they are human rulers/judges.
It should be noted that the issues brought up in regards to this passage being about humans, aren't ever addressed in the rebuttals ( such as how are human rulers in heaven? why is dying like humans an issue?)
Also, while THIS passage as interpreted as such, helps explain Isaiah, Peter and Jude, how are those passages explained OUTSIDE the context of divine beings doing bad things?
