Judgement after death

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Judgement after death

Postby Mallz » Sun Apr 09, 2017 3:27 am

I'm having a hard time reconciling the finality of a souls' state after death. Does this mean a soul will not 'evolve', for lack of a better word, once it has been molded through this life (with or without Him)? As a side note, it would harmonize with why angels fall for eternity. Makes me think of the rich man and Lazarus, too. I don't understand not having growth with Him through eternity (we will never be divine). But then, perhaps it's continued growth in our being, always having potential but never reaching it with an eternal God (part of the essence of having 'being'). Something that confuses me, is how a soul would not want to deny itself and reform for the life in God if it is found in hell. What is it with the passing of this life that brings on an eternal imprint?

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Re: Judgement after death

Postby B. W. » Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:40 am

Mallz wrote:I'm having a hard time reconciling the finality of a souls' state after death. Does this mean a soul will not 'evolve', for lack of a better word, once it has been molded through this life (with or without Him)? As a side note, it would harmonize with why angels fall for eternity. Makes me think of the rich man and Lazarus, too. I don't understand not having growth with Him through eternity (we will never be divine). But then, perhaps it's continued growth in our being, always having potential but never reaching it with an eternal God (part of the essence of having 'being'). Something that confuses me, is how a soul would not want to deny itself and reform for the life in God if it is found in hell. What is it with the passing of this life that brings on an eternal imprint?


I am not following your line of thought very clearly here. I will try to ask some questions and makes a few statments to clarify what you mean below:

Evolve - Eccl 3:11,14 basically this: Once our mortal life begins, eternity begins for human beings. It starts, then due to the absolute justice, mercy, goodness, of God, despite already foreknowing the result of growth of each human being, God remains just to his own promises, gifts, and callings.

People evolve, grow, fall away into rebellion of their own accord. Rebellion is simply manipulating God's character traits to achieve ones owns ends, as well as the end of God. Rebellion pits and plays God's goodness against itself in order to disprove God does keep his word, promises etc... The idea of rebellion is control - we are in charge - call all the shots - know better than God or anyone else for that matter.

Humanity fell into rebellion and evolves in it to justify and absolve oneself. Since God placed eternity in our hearts, when one dies in that state, they remain so as they will never change, no matter what. Once a person understands eternity from the position of the afterlife, they will continue to seek to play God a fool and seek ways to entrap Him in his words, promises, gifts, etc...

This will sound strange to you but for God it would it not be just to the created being to evolve them in the afterlife to accept Him as that is not just for the being because they view God as the means to their own ends. They do not change, in fact they get worse and worse. Thus they are sealed in their fallen state of their own free accord and God holds them to account, eternally...

Do you understand what it means to be sealed by the Holy Spirit?

We are mortal beings who after we die, enter the eternal. Only in this life is their a chance to change and turn away from rebellion thru what Jesus Christ did upon the cross proving that God is faithful and worthy and as how the world portrays Him. He seals us and states the change in us and carries us through to the uttermost. Faith, loyalty, responsibility is restored by this reconciliation brought to light By God''s grace shown on the cross. The cross is the just litmus test to see whom sets their heart to who and in what. Do you understated this?

How any soul of a person would not want reconciliation and restoration back to God original plan for each person is determined in this mortal life: What one sows, they reap...

Is this what you are referring to?
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Re: Judgement after death

Postby thatkidakayoungguy » Sun Apr 09, 2017 6:16 pm

B. W. wrote: Since God placed eternity in our hearts, when one dies in that state, they remain so as they will never change, no matter what.
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As a side thought, when babies, fetuses, handicapped people, etc, are in heaven, they stay the same? How will they serve God?

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Re: Judgement after death

Postby B. W. » Mon Apr 10, 2017 9:52 am

thatkidakayoungguy wrote:
B. W. wrote: Since God placed eternity in our hearts, when one dies in that state, they remain so as they will never change, no matter what.
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As a side thought, when babies, fetuses, handicapped people, etc, are in heaven, they stay the same? How will they serve God?


God who made the lame to walk and the blind to see will make whole all who enter into heaven where they receive their true healing...

God does not change...
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Re: Judgement after death

Postby jven » Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:03 am

I own a ps3 and 4 and am trying to clean up my life. As such I have sold nearly every games that I own. What I now own is games like "dragon quest builders" "lego worlds" "hidden object games, castlevania lords of shadow...dark souls 3 (its a bit dark but i dont go around murdering people any thing i attack back is usually in self defense)...some robot games, a few final fantasy...most of them are "play through teh story" games....are these games wrong? if i defeat a slime or demon ina game is it going to send me to hell doing this? brian I KNOW you have seen heaven and hell and I don't know what to do....I dont play games like grand theft auto and i dont play games where you shoot people.....most of what i play is "fantasy" like zelda for instance...do i need to sell these? I don't want to go to hell.........what has god told you about these games? in dragon quest you rebuild towns , im an engineering student i like building things both in real life and in games", is plying these e rated games or games that have monsters like rolls and goblins , usually enemys, going to send me to hell? Do i need to sell them? what about g rated movies or cartons?

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Re: Judgement after death

Postby jven » Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:31 am

if these games are bad there so book money for next semester...but if not...ill keep playing them and trying to make friends so i can talk to them about god!!!.....sorry if i am being a bother guys......

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Re: Judgement after death

Postby Nessa » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:02 pm

jven wrote: Do i need to sell them? what about g rated movies or cartons?

All g rated movies and cartoons are ok except for ones with tinkerbell in them...

her dress is far too short :shakehead:

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Re: Judgement after death

Postby jven » Sun Jun 04, 2017 12:10 pm

@Nessa ..

I don't know....I was bought up in a house hold where we played the games.....no one ever told me about this stuff being as bad as it can be until the past 3 pr 4 years.....

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Re: Judgement after death

Postby RickD » Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:08 pm

Just don't watch Japanese anime. It's like watching soft core porn. I just found that out yesterday.
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Re: Judgement after death

Postby jven » Sun Jun 04, 2017 1:11 pm

some of it is yes...not all of it...some of it is actually really good...but i know what your talking about...I keep away from the filth....if its bad...its out the window here:

as for me and my house we WILL serve the lord.

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Re: Judgement after death

Postby jven » Sun Jun 04, 2017 5:59 pm

just to be clear "out the window here means " its thrown away, not looked at, kept away from, not welcome....if that phrase confused anyone.....

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Re: Judgement after death

Postby thatkidakayoungguy » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:57 am

Yes it's called hentai and a lot of people around my age bracket seem to watch it. Well, weeaboos, geeks, and nerds anyhow.

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Re: Judgement after death

Postby thatkidakayoungguy » Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:59 am

Oh and be careful of looking up my little pony, there's nasty porn of that too.

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Re: Judgement after death

Postby jven » Mon Jun 05, 2017 9:02 am

.....Theres iniquity of everything if you go looking.........look for the devil you will find him.....we have to be careful what we go looking up i think....

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Re: Judgement after death

Postby Nicki » Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:17 pm

jven wrote:I own a ps3 and 4 and am trying to clean up my life. As such I have sold nearly every games that I own. What I now own is games like "dragon quest builders" "lego worlds" "hidden object games, castlevania lords of shadow...dark souls 3 (its a bit dark but i dont go around murdering people any thing i attack back is usually in self defense)...some robot games, a few final fantasy...most of them are "play through teh story" games....are these games wrong? if i defeat a slime or demon ina game is it going to send me to hell doing this? brian I KNOW you have seen heaven and hell and I don't know what to do....I dont play games like grand theft auto and i dont play games where you shoot people.....most of what i play is "fantasy" like zelda for instance...do i need to sell these? I don't want to go to hell.........what has god told you about these games? in dragon quest you rebuild towns , im an engineering student i like building things both in real life and in games", is plying these e rated games or games that have monsters like rolls and goblins , usually enemys, going to send me to hell? Do i need to sell them? what about g rated movies or cartons?


Fantasy type games with monster-killing are all OK in my opinion. You're not doing anything wrong in making an animated monster die, and I think the brain can separate fantasy and reality. I also think it's important to have a balanced life, and not spend most or all of your free time on video games. Getting out of the house and connection with nature and other people are good ideas.


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