Critique of "Can Christians Use Drugs?"

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Re: Critique of "Can Christians Use Drugs?"

Postby RickD » Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:03 am

Byblos wrote:Y'all sound like a bunch of Christians on drugs.

(my way of bringing the thread back to topic :lol: ).


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Re: Critique of "Can Christians Use Drugs?"

Postby wrain62 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:22 pm

It may be wrong to use weed, but having it illegal is stupid as well. Enforcement costs are huge and illegal drug traffiking people get more profit. It would not be the only mild drug that would be on the market, either.
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Re: Critique of "Can Christians Use Drugs?"

Postby RickD » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:26 pm

wrain62 wrote:Morality of Christian drug use...
It depends on intention:
Are you using a potentially harmful substance just for fun or individuality?
It may be wrong to use weed, but having it illegal is stupid as well. Enforcement costs are huge and illegal drug traffiking people get more profit. It won´t be the only illegal drug that also may be wrong to use and especially to abuse.

Maybe then, we should push for making drunk driving legal, as well. Enforcement costs are high, and our courts are overcrowded as it is now. Plus the poor restaurants and bars aren't making enough money, because it's illegal to serve someone who's drunk. Great logic, wrain. :shakehead:
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Re: Critique of "Can Christians Use Drugs?"

Postby Murray » Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:49 pm

prohibition, it still doesn't work......


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Re: Critique of "Can Christians Use Drugs?"

Postby wrain62 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:53 am

RickD wrote:
wrain62 wrote:Morality of Christian drug use...
It depends on intention:
Are you using a potentially harmful substance just for fun or individuality?
It may be wrong to use weed, but having it illegal is stupid as well. Enforcement costs are huge and illegal drug traffiking people get more profit. It won´t be the only illegal drug that also may be wrong to use and especially to abuse.

Maybe then, we should push for making drunk driving legal, as well. Enforcement costs are high, and our courts are overcrowded as it is now. Plus the poor restaurants and bars aren't making enough money, because it's illegal to serve someone who's drunk. Great logic, wrain. :shakehead:



DUI is a larger public safety issue than getting high on weed. It is not fair to parallel the two. The reasons drunk driving is illegal because it poses a lethal threat to the public and causes unnecessary vandalism. Also, the self infliction risk is too high to allow a drunk person with skewed judgement to drive. My logic may not have been complete but the example you gave to undermine the logic was an unfair one.
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Re: Critique of "Can Christians Use Drugs?"

Postby Danieltwotwenty » Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:05 pm

DUI is a larger public safety issue than getting high on weed. It is not fair to parallel the two. The reasons drunk driving is illegal because it poses a lethal threat to the public and causes unnecessary vandalism. Also, the self infliction risk is too high to allow a drunk person with skewed judgement to drive. My logic may not have been complete but the example you gave to undermine the logic was an unfair one.


Driving under the influence of THC also decreases your judgement and has been proven to cause accidents hence why it is illegal to take drugs and drive in my counrty.
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Re: Critique of "Can Christians Use Drugs?"

Postby kmr » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:46 pm

If we allow access to Marijuana legally, a great deal more people will use it, and we will be causing more problems than we started with. The costs in damages from accidents and health care would far surpass the cost of "keeping it illegal"... enforcement officers are doing little enough even now. Why add another potentially dangerous and perhaps even more harmful drug to the legal market? (Not to mention the costs of buying all those drugs and the mental damage if people were allowed to use it all the time....)
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Re: Critique of "Can Christians Use Drugs?"

Postby Proinsias » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:59 pm

Just out of interest, do you have any figures to back that up?

Cost of police and legal resources spent on dealing with weed in places where it is illegal vs cost of healthcare for weed related issues in places where it is legal?

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Re: Critique of "Can Christians Use Drugs?"

Postby SnowDrops » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:25 pm

Well, there are a couple of countries where it is legal, like Cambodia (de facto legal), Peru, Mexico... so it should be fairly simple to look up how much they spend on "recovery programs" and such...

And this is a nice website http://www.webehigh.com/

It seems right now the US government (source: Google search) is spending about 150 billion dollars (per year) on drug rehabilitation centers, treatment, etc which is quite a lot considering it's illegal.
And if marijuana, etc was legal even more people would perceive it (though according to some people correctly) as harmless, more people would use drugs and more money would be spent on recovery.
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Re: Critique of "Can Christians Use Drugs?"

Postby kmr » Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:42 pm

^ Not to mention the wasted money on buying all of those drugs...
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Re: Critique of "Can Christians Use Drugs?"

Postby pebbleanrock » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:06 am

Jesus' first miracle was to create wine. The body must not be abused because it is the Temple of the Holy Spirit. If you are dysfunctional to any degree, say, loss of memory or being illogical, you've crossed a line and must change [repent].


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