ageofknowledge wrote:America is slowly decriminalizing medical marijuana and also small amounts of marijuana for personal use in SOME states but that's as far as it goes. The people you were debating aren't providing you with accurate information. They will be very surprised if they get caught with a couple ounces in the wrong state. In Idaho, you can smoke part of a joint or bowl and not have ANYTHING on you and be walking down the street and get busted. I got caught with 1/4 oz there back in 78, under the even tougher old laws, and thought they were going to put me in prison and throw away the key. The officer took pity on me for some reason, God only knows why, and ground it into the dirt with the heel of his boot and let me go. To a 16 year old looking at doing time over a lousy 1/4 oz he was smoking when he got back to the orphanage after school it was like winning the lottery. I never got caught again and by my early 20's was saved and done forever with it. .
I can sympathise with some medical marijuana use on the basis that some chemicals can spread to and alleviate the pain in different cases. Also I don't believe in the jailing on the basis of small-time possession; I believe in ploughing more and more resources into rehabilitation and re-education on the very real potential psychosis-related dangers of marijuana. So having looked at your (superb, by the way) link of State by State rundown I'm very impressed with the way small-possession is dealt with leniently but with no less warning and awareness that it is not legal and you will b e further punished if continuously caught and/or with larger amounts. I don't know about your rehabilitation and re-education programmes, Age, but attitude of most States about the issue seem to me to be pretty consistent.
And you know what, I TOTALLY agree with EVERYTHING you have to say about it. It was a waste of my life negatively affecting my brain and personality when I used it. Unfortunately, gangs, prison gangs, drug cartels, the mafia and other organized crime groups, and independent criminals are enriching themselves and growing fast with the $35.8 billion a year they get off illicit sales of this drug. http://www.drugscience.org/Archive/bcr2/MJCropReport_2006.pdf
An astonishing link: but I still see no reason to believe in legalising and “controlling” marijuana will do anything to help the efforts of law enforcement in eradicating the drug. There appears to be an 8% success rate in finding outdoor cultivated marijuana plants and only 2% indoor; I fail to see how legalising it will somehow produce a magic wand and the other 92% and 98% respectively will be nailed down. We have the same dilemma over here which hasn't been answered at all, let alone an attempt been made to answer.
ageofknowledge wrote:They are growing so rich and powerful they are destabilizing portions of Mexico and Central America. They are committing murders here in the USA with impunity. The new trend is to put domestic latino gangs in the USA on a payment plan and when they need someone hit they dial up the closest gang on retainer and the deed is done. The gang gets a substantial bonus for each hit. But focus on the power aspect. They are beginning to dream even bigger designs.
At some point, we are going to have to deal with this. The next step, imo, to begin taking the power away from these drug dealers would be to treat it like any other perscription drug here in the USA. Have the big drug companies grow it and sell it, with a doctor's RX to adults only, through pharmacies.
That's the best argument for legalisation I've heard YET! And I'm dealing with scientists over here and psychiatrists… Go figure!
Luckily, most of those I deal with are firmly on the side of illegalisation. It's your land, Age, and I respect your call. And marijuana does seem to be at almost pandemic levels over there. I can only speak for over here and, for the reasons I've given, I absolutely oppose legalisation in this country. Thanks again for those great links.