How do members of the Trinity communicate with each other?

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Re: How do members of the Trinity communicate with each other?

Postby Stu » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:49 am

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Philip wrote:Ah, "chinese whispers" - also known as the telephone game. Nah - I'm fairly sure that the communication is simultaneous and perfectly known - not as if the message goes through the Father, then to the Son, and then when it gets to the Holy Spirit, the messasge is somehow garbled or changed.


It's neither simultaneous nor instantaneous. In fact, there is no communicating for communication implies distinction of the wills. In the Trinity there is but one divine will.


You know this how exactly? The Bible tells us nothing about communication. What it does tell us is that in the flesh Jesus prayed to His Father while on earth.
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Re: How do members of the Trinity communicate with each other?

Postby neo-x » Mon Jul 10, 2017 3:19 am

Stu wrote:
Byblos wrote:
Philip wrote:Ah, "chinese whispers" - also known as the telephone game. Nah - I'm fairly sure that the communication is simultaneous and perfectly known - not as if the message goes through the Father, then to the Son, and then when it gets to the Holy Spirit, the messasge is somehow garbled or changed.


It's neither simultaneous nor instantaneous. In fact, there is no communicating for communication implies distinction of the wills. In the Trinity there is but one divine will.


You know this how exactly? The Bible tells us nothing about communication. What it does tell us is that in the flesh Jesus prayed to His Father while on earth.


Are you saying that God was praying to God? Or do you understand Jesus' earthly ministry as being devoid of his Godly self as scriptures tell us, otherwise how could God die? So can we agree that this is an exception because of Jesus' earthly role?

Within the trinity, the father, son and HS are all one mind, they don't communicate at all. They have literally the same will and same mind. It is not so that the father wills something new and like in an instant it gets conveyed to the HS and the son. God (triune God) knows all, there is nothing that is new to him and if you take that logical conclusion to eternity, there is nothing that is new for God to conceive as he has no potential. He is the maximum being there is.
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Re: How do members of the Trinity communicate with each other?

Postby RickD » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:27 am

neo-x wrote:
Stu wrote:
Byblos wrote:
Philip wrote:Ah, "chinese whispers" - also known as the telephone game. Nah - I'm fairly sure that the communication is simultaneous and perfectly known - not as if the message goes through the Father, then to the Son, and then when it gets to the Holy Spirit, the messasge is somehow garbled or changed.


It's neither simultaneous nor instantaneous. In fact, there is no communicating for communication implies distinction of the wills. In the Trinity there is but one divine will.


You know this how exactly? The Bible tells us nothing about communication. What it does tell us is that in the flesh Jesus prayed to His Father while on earth.


Are you saying that God was praying to God? Or do you understand Jesus' earthly ministry as being devoid of his Godly self as scriptures tell us, otherwise how could God die? So can we agree that this is an exception because of Jesus' earthly role?

Within the trinity, the father, son and HS are all one mind, they don't communicate at all. They have literally the same will and same mind. It is not so that the father wills something new and like in an instant it gets conveyed to the HS and the son. God (triune God) knows all, there is nothing that is new to him and if you take that logical conclusion to eternity, there is nothing that is new for God to conceive as he has no potential. He is the maximum being there is.

I think this is pretty well accepted, Theology 101 type stuff. It gets back to the basics of God being God.
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Re: How do members of the Trinity communicate with each other?

Postby neo-x » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:07 am

RickD wrote:
neo-x wrote:
Stu wrote:
Byblos wrote:
Philip wrote:Ah, "chinese whispers" - also known as the telephone game. Nah - I'm fairly sure that the communication is simultaneous and perfectly known - not as if the message goes through the Father, then to the Son, and then when it gets to the Holy Spirit, the messasge is somehow garbled or changed.


It's neither simultaneous nor instantaneous. In fact, there is no communicating for communication implies distinction of the wills. In the Trinity there is but one divine will.


You know this how exactly? The Bible tells us nothing about communication. What it does tell us is that in the flesh Jesus prayed to His Father while on earth.


Are you saying that God was praying to God? Or do you understand Jesus' earthly ministry as being devoid of his Godly self as scriptures tell us, otherwise how could God die? So can we agree that this is an exception because of Jesus' earthly role?

Within the trinity, the father, son and HS are all one mind, they don't communicate at all. They have literally the same will and same mind. It is not so that the father wills something new and like in an instant it gets conveyed to the HS and the son. God (triune God) knows all, there is nothing that is new to him and if you take that logical conclusion to eternity, there is nothing that is new for God to conceive as he has no potential. He is the maximum being there is.

I think this is pretty well accepted, Theology 101 type stuff. It gets back to the basics of God being God.

Yup. Stu apparently is missing out on it though or so it seems.
People treat facts as relevant more when the facts tend to support their opinions. When the facts are against their opinions, they don't necessarily deny the facts, but they say the facts are less relevant or insignificant. This is ofcourse because believing things that make you feel comfortable, takes a priority. And I think that should not be the case if one is after truth.

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Re: How do members of the Trinity communicate with each other?

Postby Stu » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:40 am

neo-x wrote:
RickD wrote:
neo-x wrote:
Stu wrote:
Byblos wrote:
It's neither simultaneous nor instantaneous. In fact, there is no communicating for communication implies distinction of the wills. In the Trinity there is but one divine will.


You know this how exactly? The Bible tells us nothing about communication. What it does tell us is that in the flesh Jesus prayed to His Father while on earth.


Are you saying that God was praying to God? Or do you understand Jesus' earthly ministry as being devoid of his Godly self as scriptures tell us, otherwise how could God die? So can we agree that this is an exception because of Jesus' earthly role?

Within the trinity, the father, son and HS are all one mind, they don't communicate at all. They have literally the same will and same mind. It is not so that the father wills something new and like in an instant it gets conveyed to the HS and the son. God (triune God) knows all, there is nothing that is new to him and if you take that logical conclusion to eternity, there is nothing that is new for God to conceive as he has no potential. He is the maximum being there is.

I think this is pretty well accepted, Theology 101 type stuff. It gets back to the basics of God being God.

Yup. Stu apparently is missing out on it though or so it seems.


What?

I just pointed out, which you seem to agree on, that Jesus in the flesh prayed to God. Also, I don't like to assume things.
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