Hells Dominion by B.W. Melvin

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Re: Hells Dominion by B.W. Melvin

Postby Nessa » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:50 am

bbyrd009 wrote:
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my whole family mourns for my dad except my mourning is,different. I mourn for a man who I never really knew and where there was no relationship.

Be careful of not giving false comfort. Hell is real.
yes, i do not deny that it is real; just that it is misrepresented to us, and seeking in Scripture with a shovel--really even just a garden spade, in this instance--will reveal what hell really is. Hell in the "afterlife" might easily be the remorse from not having learned...what hell really is, while one was on earth. Lack of knowledge, or, better put, lack of Living Water, is what the rich man suffers from. God is the All~Consuming Fire, as the lesson of Meshak, Shadrak, and Abed-Nego (whose names were changed) might inform us. All go to the same place.

So it is at least advisable to keep an open mind there imo, and seek other informed opinions. Find out what Gehenna really is. Ask a Jew, even; you don't have to become a Jew, to get their opinion.



How do you feel hell has been misrepresented? What has B.W said that is not inline with scripture?
I meant the reality of the hell spoken of in the bible is real.

keeping our minds open is fine as long as it includes being open to discovering the truth

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Re: Hells Dominion by B.W. Melvin

Postby RickD » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:06 pm

Please keep the discussion about B. W.'s book. Please start a new thread if you want to debate hell.
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Re: Hells Dominion by B.W. Melvin

Postby B. W. » Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:02 pm

Majority of Biblical scholars state that Gehenna is analogous to the Lake of Fire...

The current Hell as mentioned in Job 26:5-6, Isa 24:22, Ezekiel 32:17-31, Ezekiel 26:20, Isa 59:10 etc and etc and is not Gehenna. These verses mentioned describe what I saw and I saw a pit. Also note that in Rev 20:14 where the current hell will be cast into... Casting Gehenna into Gehenna simply would not make sense...
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Re: Hells Dominion by B.W. Melvin

Postby bbyrd009 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:34 am

didn't see any "hell" mentioned in any of those? And i suggest that there is a spiritual principle at work there, in the tossing of stuff into a pit, anyway, that a literal tossing of anything does not really consider or even approach. And if the pit is disconnected from Gehenna somehow, i have not seen it in the Book. The pit is a ref to Gehenna, and i would just go find some new Biblical Scholars who maybe are not so sure of themselves. Not disagreeing that the device is not useful, for getting childrens' attention, and the like; it works great imo, but it is strictly baby food.
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Re: Hells Dominion by B.W. Melvin

Postby bbyrd009 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:49 am

Job 26:6 Sheol
http://biblehub.com/hebrew/7585.htm

should be read with the understanding that "all go to the same place," and you and i are going there, too. Note how Job literally ties these to Erets, Earth:

5The departed spirits tremble
beneath the waters and all that inhabit them. 
6•Sheol is naked before God,
and •Abaddon  has no covering. 
7He stretches the northern skies over empty space;
He hangs the earth on nothing.
8He wraps up the waters in His clouds,
yet the clouds do not burst beneath their weight. 

And your position has you excluded from someday being a "departed spirit."
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Re: Hells Dominion by B.W. Melvin

Postby bbyrd009 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:51 am

like the Job passage you quote, the Isaiah one is also written as alliteration, and note that Sheol is not even invoked in the Lex at that passage.
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Re: Hells Dominion by B.W. Melvin

Postby bbyrd009 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:55 am

Ezekiel 32 is literally whispering at you,

18“Son of man, wail for the hordes of Egypt and consign to the earth below both her and the daughters of mighty nations, along with those who go down to the pit."

wherein neither Gehenna, Sheol, nor Hades is invoked; the word used is the same as for "well" in this case.
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Re: Hells Dominion by B.W. Melvin

Postby bbyrd009 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:57 am

etc, we can go on if you like. I'm not meaning to be a jerk here, honest. And hold a literal concept of hell, with fire, and guys with pitchforks sticking bad people, as long as you want to, ok, the alliteration works fine for me.

Just to be clear i did read the OP, but if i had connected that BW with you, i doubt that i would have even commented here
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