PaulSacramento wrote: Kenny wrote: PaulSacramento wrote: Kenny wrote:
That you state this and then say the Law is objective cracks me up to no end.
According to your view, IF the Law is objective then it would :
not based on personal opinions, beliefs, not influenced by extenuating circumstances, or biases.
And yet, as you know, that law IS based on personal opinion ( the people making the law), beliefs ( of the people making the Law) and IS influenced by circumstances ( laws change) and biases ( of the people making the law).
That is why we have different laws all over the world and why laws change on a pretty regular basis, sometime the polar opposite of what it was.
Laws ORIGINATE from personal opinions, beliefs, and influenced by extenuating circumstances (at this point it is actually called a Bill). But once the Bill becomes law, is on record and enforced; all personal opinions, beliefs, and extenuating circumstances of those who must follow that law are not allowed.
Can a Law be changed Ken?
Yes or no?
Of course! Umm... you aren't under the impression "objective" means unchangeable are you?
Why would a law change Ken?
There is a system in place that allows for laws to be changed or dispelled. IMO the reason for this system is because as morality changes people want the laws to change also to be in tune with morality.
Now I realize as a Christian you may take issue with this idea that morality changes.
dictionary.com defines morality as “a conformity to the rules of good conduct”
I see “good conduct” as subjective. This is the way I see it:
The year 1800 people believed they had morality figured out! It was okay to enslave non white people because they are an inferior race, and human sacrifice is immoral even though in the past, people thought it was okay; but they were just wrong back then, we know better now, and we can even point to scripture to support our beliefs.
Jump 100 years later, 1900 people believed they had morality figured out! among other things, it was okay to spank your kids, race mixing is wrong because God made different races for a reason and who are we to mix all that up? And slavery was wrong, even though they used to think it was okay; they were just wrong back then, but we know better now, and can even provide scripture to support our beliefs.
Jump 80 years later; 1980 people believed they had morality all figured out! Race mixing is okay, marriage should be only between a man and a woman, and spanking your children is wrong, even though we used to think it was okay; but they were just wrong back then, we know better now and can even provide scripture to support our beliefs.
Jump to today! 2018 people believe we have morality all figured out! Men with “Gender Dysphoria” should be allowed access to public female restroom and shower facilities as long as he identifies as a woman, and it is immoral to discriminate against same sex couples who want to get married, even though we used to think such discrimination was okay; but they were just wrong back then, we know better now and can even provide scripture to support our beliefs
Now I ask you; if morality is objective, what do you think are the chances that we actually have gotten it right this time?