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Types of atheism

Postby PaulSacramento » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:02 am

Type of Atheism:

http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=6487
‘Atheism’ is a much simpler concept than ‘Christianity’ or ‘Hinduism’, but the word atheism is still used in a wide variety of ways.

This can cause confusion. Someone may announce that she is an atheist, and her listeners may assume she is one type of atheist, when really she is a different type of atheist.

So to clear things up, here are 17 kinds of atheism, organized into 7 sets. Some kinds of atheism can be combined in a person, and some cannot. For example, it is perfectly consistent to be an agnostic, narrow, friendly atheist. But one cannot simultaneously be both a passive atheist and a militant atheist.

This list is not definitive. There are many ways to organize and label different kinds of atheism.


AN interesting list.
I would disagree with this comment here:
A militant atheist uses violence to promote atheism or destroy religion. (Often, the term “militant atheist” is misapplied to non-violent evangelical atheists like Richard Dawkins. But to preserve the parallel with the “militant Christian” who bombs abortion clinics or the “militant Muslim” suicide bomber, I prefer the definition of “militant atheist” that assumes acts of violence.)
simply because it appears to be redefining "militant" for more politically correct meaning.

Militant:
mil·i·tant
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adjective
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combative and aggressive in support of a political or social cause, and typically favoring extreme, violent, or confrontational methods.
"a militant nationalist"
synonyms: aggressive, violent, belligerent, bellicose, vigorous, forceful, active, fierce, combative, pugnacious; More

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Re: Types of atheism

Postby PaulSacramento » Fri Oct 21, 2016 10:07 am

The vast majority that I know would be best described as:
Passive Agnostic Atheist.

Most that I have debated with on forums:
Evangelical Open Gnostic Atheists

The vast majority I have debated with that USED to be religious are, and I find this funny:
Evangelical Open Gnostic Atheists
Even more so if they were, as believers, very open and evangelical believers !

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Re: Types of atheism

Postby B. W. » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:17 am

You also forgot one: The Christian Atheist

The Christian Atheist is one doesn't think God heals anymore and there no longer a need for the gifts of the Holy Spirit to be action today....

The church is all messed up in so many areas and in so many places asleep at the wheel..

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Re: Types of atheism

Postby PaulSacramento » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:29 am

B. W. wrote:You also forgot one: The Christian Atheist

The Christian Atheist is one doesn't think God heals anymore and there no longer a need for the gifts of the Holy Spirit to be action today....

The church is all messed up in so many areas and in so many places asleep at the wheel..

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Re: Types of atheism

Postby RickD » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:30 am

Here we go...
1 Corinthians 1:9
9 God is faithful, through whom you were called into fellowship with His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

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Re: Types of atheism

Postby PaulSacramento » Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:40 am

When BW wrote Christian Atheist I thought he was referring to the Unified Preacher that is an atheist.
I guess not..

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Re: Types of atheism

Postby B. W. » Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:26 pm

I am teasing you all :horseman:

:lol:

Actually a christian atheist would make a great Unitarian, great point!
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Re: Types of atheism

Postby Kenny » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:13 pm

PaulSacramento wrote:Type of Atheism:

http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=6487
‘Atheism’ is a much simpler concept than ‘Christianity’ or ‘Hinduism’, but the word atheism is still used in a wide variety of ways.

This can cause confusion. Someone may announce that she is an atheist, and her listeners may assume she is one type of atheist, when really she is a different type of atheist.

So to clear things up, here are 17 kinds of atheism, organized into 7 sets. Some kinds of atheism can be combined in a person, and some cannot. For example, it is perfectly consistent to be an agnostic, narrow, friendly atheist. But one cannot simultaneously be both a passive atheist and a militant atheist.

This list is not definitive. There are many ways to organize and label different kinds of atheism.


AN interesting list.
I would disagree with this comment here:
A militant atheist uses violence to promote atheism or destroy religion. (Often, the term “militant atheist” is misapplied to non-violent evangelical atheists like Richard Dawkins. But to preserve the parallel with the “militant Christian” who bombs abortion clinics or the “militant Muslim” suicide bomber, I prefer the definition of “militant atheist” that assumes acts of violence.)
simply because it appears to be redefining "militant" for more politically correct meaning.

Militant:
mil·i·tant
ˈmiləd(ə)nt/
adjective
1.
combative and aggressive in support of a political or social cause, and typically favoring extreme, violent, or confrontational methods.
"a militant nationalist"
synonyms: aggressive, violent, belligerent, bellicose, vigorous, forceful, active, fierce, combative, pugnacious; More


Interesting site. I wonder what does this person mean when he says “does not believe in God
*Does this mean he may believe the person called God may exist but doesn't buy all the claims believers attribute to him?
*Does it mean he may believe all the claims attribute to the person called God, but for whatever reason, he doesn't call him God or recognize him as any type of Deity?
Or does it mean he doesn’t believe any person called God exists (foolish position)

I wonder which atheist label a person would fit under if he believed a God like Yahweh, or Allah may exist, but just see them as an advanced being from another Galaxy, not God.

Now just for the record, these are not necessarily the positions I hold, I was just wondering out loud.


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Re: Types of atheism

Postby Audie » Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:29 am

B. W. wrote:I am teasing you all :horseman:

:lol:

Actually a christian atheist would make a great Unitarian, great point!
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Maybe christian stheist is someone who gets mad at God, or develops more intelkectual doubts,
but never really-really stops believing or stops thinking as a Christian.

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Re: Types of atheism

Postby Hortator » Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:33 am

B. W. wrote:I am teasing you all :horseman:

:lol:

Actually a christian atheist would make a great Unitarian, great point!
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You're close to something Vox Dei would discuss. You see, atheists are moral-parasite. What is a moral-parasite? Somebody who rejects their cultures mores, but practices them paradoxically. So if we are talking about Dawkins, Harris and Hitchens, they can accurately be described as "Christian atheist" despite the obvious oxymoron.

Same goes for the atheist in Jerusalem: Jewish-atheist. Or the Hindi-atheist, and so on.

Only exception is Islamic-atheist.....we just call them "dead man walking" depending on their country.

Edit: only thing Vox Dei didn't cover were atheists from atheist states. Kind of hard to describe their behavior.

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Re: Types of atheism

Postby Kenny » Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:24 am

Hortator wrote:
B. W. wrote:I am teasing you all :horseman:

:lol:

Actually a christian atheist would make a great Unitarian, great point!
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You see, atheists are moral-parasite. What is a moral-parasite? Somebody who rejects their cultures mores, but practices them paradoxically. So if we are talking about Dawkins, Harris and Hitchens, they can accurately be described as "Christian atheist" despite the obvious oxymoron.

Didn’t those people live in America and Europe? With as many different cultures that make up those countries, how do you know they reject whatever culture they are a part of, yet practice them periodically?

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Re: Types of atheism

Postby Audie » Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:24 pm

Kenny wrote:
Hortator wrote:
B. W. wrote:I am teasing you all :horseman:

:lol:

Actually a christian atheist would make a great Unitarian, great point!
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You see, atheists are moral-parasite. What is a moral-parasite? Somebody who rejects their cultures mores, but practices them paradoxically. So if we are talking about Dawkins, Harris and Hitchens, they can accurately be described as "Christian atheist" despite the obvious oxymoron.

Didn’t those people live in America and Europe? With as many different cultures that make up those countries, how do you know they reject whatever culture they are a part of, yet practice them periodically?

Ken


I'd be interested who among our Christians here agree with that
bit of invidious cant about "moral-parasite (sic)".

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Re: Types of atheism

Postby B. W. » Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:55 pm

What began in jest, well, let's see what folks think of these articles:

In the early church history, yes Christians were called atheist:

Christians are Atheists

Accusations

Later that cold ecumenicalism crept in philosophic realms of Christian thought in the 1700 time frame and then into full gear, especially after World War One, and thus what you have is... a sort of liberal Unitarian belief system...

Christian atheism is a theological position in which the belief in the transcendent or interventionist God is rejected or absent in favor of finding God totally in the world (Thomas J. J. Altizer) or following Jesus in a godless world (William Hamilton). Hamilton's Christian atheism is similar to Jesuism.

So there you have it...
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Re: Types of atheism

Postby B. W. » Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:28 pm

Next in regard to moral parasite charge being made against Christians:

What is wrong with the following verses:

Isaiah 61:1,2,3,4

Isaiah 1:17,18

Micah 6:8;

Zep 2:3;

Zec 7:9,10

Zec 8:16

If then doing these things makes us moral parasites to the world so be it, Isa 1:23, it is time for a revolution...

So far the world is shouting for Christians to shut up and play inside the fours walls - sadly most of the modern church world complies with its demands - just to get along to prove they love...

There is way too much morality of the world dictating to the Church what it should do and how it must act - which summed up as: not relying on the power of God for the revolution spoken of in Isaiah 61:1,2,3,4 but instead programs, rituals, and that "let's do plan and if plan A does not work then off to plans b, d, r, x, q, etc and etc."

Let's get real...

Most of what goes on in the modern Church world is a Joke which turns people off. For example, you have people abusing others, misusing God's gifts and callings that the Lord offers all exchanged into personal promotion and thus adhering to the morality of the world. Darkness falls but God has a plan...

However, there are a few folks do not adhere to the morality of the world and seek instead Acts 1:8, Acts 2:38 and live the Isaiah 61:1,2,3,4 way by the gifts see 1 Co 12:3-31 by simple = Arising what??? hint Isa 60:1,2,3 and Matthew 5:14,15,16

It is easy to act like the world but to Arise is another matter...

Questions for Christians reading this and not to non-Christians: you tired of the same old same old yet? not working very well is it?

Time for Revolution - Game On!
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Re: Types of atheism

Postby Kenny » Sun Oct 23, 2016 7:22 pm

B. W. wrote:What began in jest, well, let's see what folks think of these articles:

In the early church history, yes Christians were called atheist:

Christians are Atheists

Accusations

Later that cold ecumenicalism crept in philosophic realms of Christian thought in the 1700 time frame and then into full gear, especially after World War One, and thus what you have is... a sort of liberal Unitarian belief system...

Christian atheism is a theological position in which the belief in the transcendent or interventionist God is rejected or absent in favor of finding God totally in the world (Thomas J. J. Altizer) or following Jesus in a godless world (William Hamilton). Hamilton's Christian atheism is similar to Jesuism.

So there you have it...
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So are you saying a Christian atheist is one who follows the philosophical teachings of Jesus, but do not worship him or any other deity as God?

Ken


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