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Re: Superior than ...

Postby abelcainsbrother » Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:44 am

I'm always respectful with those I disagree with. I just show why I'm right and they are wrong and let the chips fall where they may,but I do not think I'm superior to somebody because they think differently than me. I know that we all have strengths and weaknesses when it comes to our knowledge about things.

I know I'm weak in some areas and others are strong in some areas,but I'm strong about what I know is true or right but without being disrespectful. It is a sign of weakness to me when a person gets personal or gets upset or angry over something.The truth hurts people,and it can take time to seep in once they settle down and think it through,so I leave it up to time when I've showed somebody the truth and it is rejected.
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Re: Superior than ...

Postby Kenny » Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:41 am

PaulSacramento wrote:All people, whether believers or skeptics, believe their view to be superior to the opposing view.
That is why we have that view.
Very few people subscribe to a view that they KNOW to be inferior.

Now, putting myself in the crosshairs, I do believe that my belief in God is superior to a non-belief in God and I can cite reason and rational and so forth for believe as I do.
Of course so can the skeptic.

What MAY be the difference ( and not I say MAY) is that, for the believer ( and I am speaking of myself and my circle of friends/acquaintances) believing their view to be superior does NOT equal BEING superior.
I mean that, even though I believe my belief in God is superior to non-belief, I do NOt think that belief makes me better or superior to ANY person that believes differently.

That said, I am sure there are SOME that believe that way ( I don't personally know of any).

Now, we all know of vocal and public skeptics that DO claim that their non-belief does indeed make THEM superior ( recall the famous movement by some to call atheists "brights").

I have debated and visited and read many atheist websites and what tends to happen, more often than not, is the caricature of the believer as being uneducated, ignorant and lower IQ ( and yes I am aware of the study that showed that atheists tend to high higher IQ's and I accept that).

That said, I have also seen my fare share of skeptics being characterized in very poor taste by believers simply because they were non-believers.


My point is that why we all believe our view to be correct and by default superior, it does NOT mean that WE are superior to another that has a different view.


I've often stated I believe my views are superior to all others, not just with religion; but politics or any other view one might have. If I were to see another view I consider superior to my own, I would discard my view and adopt the new superior view as my own. I suspect most people are this way

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Re: Superior than ...

Postby RickD » Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:06 pm

Kenny wrote:
PaulSacramento wrote:All people, whether believers or skeptics, believe their view to be superior to the opposing view.
That is why we have that view.
Very few people subscribe to a view that they KNOW to be inferior.

Now, putting myself in the crosshairs, I do believe that my belief in God is superior to a non-belief in God and I can cite reason and rational and so forth for believe as I do.
Of course so can the skeptic.

What MAY be the difference ( and not I say MAY) is that, for the believer ( and I am speaking of myself and my circle of friends/acquaintances) believing their view to be superior does NOT equal BEING superior.
I mean that, even though I believe my belief in God is superior to non-belief, I do NOt think that belief makes me better or superior to ANY person that believes differently.

That said, I am sure there are SOME that believe that way ( I don't personally know of any).

Now, we all know of vocal and public skeptics that DO claim that their non-belief does indeed make THEM superior ( recall the famous movement by some to call atheists "brights").

I have debated and visited and read many atheist websites and what tends to happen, more often than not, is the caricature of the believer as being uneducated, ignorant and lower IQ ( and yes I am aware of the study that showed that atheists tend to high higher IQ's and I accept that).

That said, I have also seen my fare share of skeptics being characterized in very poor taste by believers simply because they were non-believers.


My point is that why we all believe our view to be correct and by default superior, it does NOT mean that WE are superior to another that has a different view.


I've often stated I believe my views are superior to all others, not just with religion; but politics or any other view one might have. If I were to see another view I consider superior to my own, I would discard my view and adopt the new superior view as my own. I suspect most people are this way

Ken

Kenny,

I hope you realize that "I don't know", technically isn't a view.
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Re: Superior than ...

Postby Kurieuo » Thu May 26, 2016 8:12 pm

abelcainsbrother wrote:I'm always respectful with those I disagree with. I just show why I'm right and they are wrong and let the chips fall where they may,but I do not think I'm superior to somebody because they think differently than me. I know that we all have strengths and weaknesses when it comes to our knowledge about things.

I know I'm weak in some areas and others are strong in some areas,but I'm strong about what I know is true or right but without being disrespectful. It is a sign of weakness to me when a person gets personal or gets upset or angry over something.The truth hurts people,and it can take time to seep in once they settle down and think it through,so I leave it up to time when I've showed somebody the truth and it is rejected.

:lol: This made me smile ACB.
People on this board especially seem often upset and hurt by your truth.
Maybe in time, they'll get to see the truth. :P
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Re: Superior than ...

Postby Audie » Fri May 27, 2016 9:29 am

Kurieuo wrote:
abelcainsbrother wrote:I'm always respectful with those I disagree with. I just show why I'm right and they are wrong and let the chips fall where they may,but I do not think I'm superior to somebody because they think differently than me. I know that we all have strengths and weaknesses when it comes to our knowledge about things.

I know I'm weak in some areas and others are strong in some areas,but I'm strong about what I know is true or right but without being disrespectful. It is a sign of weakness to me when a person gets personal or gets upset or angry over something.The truth hurts people,and it can take time to seep in once they settle down and think it through,so I leave it up to time when I've showed somebody the truth and it is rejected.

:lol: This made me smile ACB.
People on this board especially seem often upset and hurt by your truth.
Maybe in time, they'll get to see the truth. :P



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Re: Superior than ...

Postby crochet1949 » Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:06 pm

The truth of 'geppery' ?

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Re: Superior than ...

Postby RickD » Mon Jun 06, 2016 6:31 pm

crochet1949 wrote:The truth of 'geppery' ?

She meant Gappery.

ACB only shops at The GAP.
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Re: Superior than ...

Postby crochet1949 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:42 am

RickD wrote:
crochet1949 wrote:The truth of 'geppery' ?

She meant Gappery.

ACB only shops at The GAP.


Your explanation is appreciated.

So he's a Gap theory person. :) Lots of theories 'out there'.

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Re: Superior than ...

Postby RickD » Tue Jun 07, 2016 2:19 pm

crochet1949 wrote:
RickD wrote:
crochet1949 wrote:The truth of 'geppery' ?

She meant Gappery.

ACB only shops at The GAP.


Your explanation is appreciated.

So he's a Gap theory person. :) Lots of theories 'out there'.

No. He literally only shops at The GAP. ACB only wears skinny jeans.
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Re: Superior than ...

Postby crochet1949 » Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:20 pm

So -- The Gap is Superior than ..say...Walmart?! At least for skinny jeans. Gotta admit I'm not a 'The Gap' person.

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Re: Superior than ...

Postby abelcainsbrother » Tue Jun 07, 2016 5:31 pm

I have shopped around other places too though.
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Re: Superior than ...

Postby RickD » Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:03 pm

abelcainsbrother wrote:I have shopped around other places too though.

There seems to be a gap in that logic. 8-}2
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