Audie: I need to sit with an actual keyboard for a proper reply. Im not dodging or playing poor me.
Philip: Great! Because I sincerely am curious and want to understand.
Audie: Start in two directions: drop some of the nonsense about me personally, and, see if you think eating an animal is ever immoral under any circumstances.
If no to both then sincerity wont get you there.
Wow, Audie - so THAT is what you consider a "proper" reply? More like a dodge! First place, no one said one thing about you personally! I made statements about evolutionists and Darwinists. I did not assert you have no "moral compass" - nor do think Darwinists have no moral compass - many are quite respectful and caring. But your moral code, how you think you and others should treat our fellow human being is not an idea that evolution or Darwinism can explain - because they do not deal with MORALITY. Do you disagree with that? I am not speaking of the morality of those whom believe in evolution as an unguided process. But when I ask, where is the morality in Darwinism, you get upset? Do you not agree that evolution is natural and simply how things occurred? Does any part of what those evolutionary processes included bother you? Clearly, you realize that carnivores and omnivores must eat the flesh of other animals - it's natural, how things have always been, right? But now you are asserting that ONE omnivore (man!), if he (humanely) kills and eats an animal for food, that is somehow wrong?
Audie, what I'm getting at is, HOW DID YOU DECIDE it's wrong ("barbaric) for men to kill and eat animals? Because if all man really is, is a very successful specie, amongst many others, and he does precisely what other species do, WHY do you say that is wrong? That's what I'm trying to understand - why do you believe this? Why is it wrong for man to kill and consume an animal, but not wrong for animals to do so? And do you believe it's just wrong for YOU, or also for everyone else, and why? You must admit that scientists never discuss the habits that made species successful, in terms of morality? Most would laugh and scoff at this. And if it is wrong for man, WHO says so? Some agree. Most of humanity does not.
Audie, saying this is a personal attack is 1) a huge dodge and 2) makes me wonder why you don't just say what you think in truly addressing my questions? It was you, btw, who asserted a common habit of man (killing and eating animals) is barbaric? But you refuse to answer by saying I'm attacking you and asserting you to be hypocrite? Immoral? No, at worse, I would merely say you developed your moral sense of this issue on your own, and independent of behaviors you might think evolution included - which I find fascinating. Why do you always think people are out to get you? And why do you so often refuse to answer a direct question that is relevant and nicely posed, while asserting it to be a "personal attack?" This is the most obvious dodge and silliest issue you've ever deployed that tactic over.